Kris,

BTW, "The Great Cry Followed by a Great Laugh" is a figure, or theme, in Ch'an 
practice, mentioned around the periphery.  Probably also in Zen.  May all 
beings have this!  

I may be wrong, but I think only Human (beings) CRY.  Or, especially, SOB: but 
almost every animal's eye's "water".

The "Great Cry Followed by a Great Laugh" is a spontaneous purification.

Now, if a person (practitioner) is really lucky, the "Great Cry Followed by a 
Great Laugh" ...will be followed a few days later by "The Great Death, Followed 
by a Resurrection".

That latter is awakening.

But awakening might happen sometimes in other ways.

If the "Great Cry Followed by a Great Laugh"-PURIFICATION is unneeded, then you 
can get right on with the "Great Death...", etc.  When it happens.

;-)

There can be no intention regarding these developments.

Anyway, just terms; language for real developments/phases/transitions.

(Kensho brings what you say it brings, below.  But I just wish it would bring 
me the morning PAPER!  I must get a dog, then, and name it "Kensho".  My cats 
will hate me forever).

--Joe

> Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> On 10/12/2012 4:16 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:

> Kesnho brings a momentary "Aha!" Great Satori brings the timeless "Ha 
> ha!" Laugh, or die trying. 



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