That an individual realizes Zen, that some one attains something, is
only a way of thinking about/expressing this. Realizing this, is Zen.
Zen is realization. Realization is Zen. Same. Suchness. Nothing is
realized that was never not so. Ordinary mind seen as Buddha mind. Too
simple to equivocate.
Trying to make sense of this, is both logical - and a logical dead end.
This is infinitely simpler than we can imagine, and all that too!
Perhaps the nonsense you dismiss can reveal this simplicity (original
mind) if you look without grasping/rejecting. You are not simple minded,
so this will likely prove difficult/read as nonsense. If not, we can
simply share a laugh.
Trying to express this, is simply an aspect of this. I have no reason to
assume others are realized/unrealized, as despite all appearances, the
very distinction is delusional.
KG
On 10/12/2012 4:30 PM, Edgar Owen wrote:
Joe and KG,
There is only one Zen. Some realize it and some don't...
Edgar
On Oct 12, 2012, at 4:23 PM, Joe wrote:
K.,
Dat's the only kind. I hope.
Never leave Rome without it.
--Joe / keeping it Personal
> Kristopher Grey <kris@...> wrote:
>
> Another Edgar edit. More marketing copy to peddle his personal
brand pf Zen.