Merle, ...and this is my point.
If we're the stupid, lazy, greedy species that 'created this mess' in the first place, just why do we think that NOW we have become so smart, enthusiastic and sharing that we can now 'fix it'? Don't you think we might just still be the stupid, lazy, greedy species that will now try to 'fix' something in a stupid, lazy, greedy way? Maybe even making things worse? ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > Â we create the mess now we must fix it..merle > Â > Chris, > > Seems to me we (humans) are just another one of the numerous fauna and flora > living here, but think we are smart enough to know what's best for the entire > planet. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > > > > Seems to me we (humans) are now the designated park managers for the > > planet. hopefully our skill and motivation will improve in the next few > > hundred years at this task liFe has given us > > On Oct 16, 2012 11:09 PM, "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > Joe, > > > > > > I never said that I thought everything should just stay as it is. It > > > won't. That's all part of impermanence. And...I believe the urge of > > > Merle > > > and you and anyone else to 'make things better' is natural too. > > > > > > What I bristle at is people trying to use labels such as 'unnatural' or > > > 'interfering with nature' as a reason to justify their environmental > > > (especially if conservationist) agenda. > > > > > > I look at beaches and see that I like sparsely populated beaches better > > > than those littered with condos, but I don't label the condos as > > > 'unnatural' nor their developers as 'interfering with nature'. > > > > > > I just say I like the uncluttered beaches better. They are more pleasing > > > to me. Why should I have to say more or try to justify that further? > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bill!, > > > > > > > > I know that you are. And I don't disagree. > > > > > > > > But don't give yourself airs. You're not arguing at all, Bill. > > > > > > > > You just seem to passively accept them. I'm not sure that that is > > > natural. It seems self-defeating, not Nature's way. > > > > > > > > We can naturally step in, step up, and do a hell of a lot better for > > > Nature (ourselves). It's only natural that we should want to do so. And > > > we will. Even if you benefit. > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Mike and Joe and maybe even Merle, > > > > > > > > > > I'm not arguing that all these things are not happening. I'm only > > > arguing that all these things are natural activities. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are > > > reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
