Joe, I never said that I thought everything should just stay as it is. It won't. That's all part of impermanence. And...I believe the urge of Merle and you and anyone else to 'make things better' is natural too.
What I bristle at is people trying to use labels such as 'unnatural' or 'interfering with nature' as a reason to justify their environmental (especially if conservationist) agenda. I look at beaches and see that I like sparsely populated beaches better than those littered with condos, but I don't label the condos as 'unnatural' nor their developers as 'interfering with nature'. I just say I like the uncluttered beaches better. They are more pleasing to me. Why should I have to say more or try to justify that further? ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote: > > Bill!, > > I know that you are. And I don't disagree. > > But don't give yourself airs. You're not arguing at all, Bill. > > You just seem to passively accept them. I'm not sure that that is natural. > It seems self-defeating, not Nature's way. > > We can naturally step in, step up, and do a hell of a lot better for Nature > (ourselves). It's only natural that we should want to do so. And we will. > Even if you benefit. > > --Joe > > > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > Mike and Joe and maybe even Merle, > > > > I'm not arguing that all these things are not happening. I'm only arguing > > that all these things are natural activities. > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
