Thanks,
Chris Austin-Lane
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On Oct 29, 2012, at 11:23, Edgar Owen <[email protected]> wrote:

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> 
> Joe,
> 
> So long as you take it personally as sniping rather than instruction there 
> will be no advancement...

Let there be no advancement. With nothing to gain, the mind is unfettered, far 
beyond all fear. 
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:25 PM, Joe wrote:
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>> Edgar,
>> 
>> Some Christian monastics seclude themselves in order to "intercede for the 
>> world".
>> 
>> Zen monastics practice in order to "save all beings".
>> 
>> I think it's their karma to do so.
>> 
>> To make judgements about them, without even knowing a single ONE of them, 
>> and suggesting that they busy themselves in a world that you see as more 
>> real, I think only shows what YOU should be doing, and where YOU find 
>> yourself to be at home, either by default, by lack of imagination, lack of 
>> initiative, or masochism.
>> 
>> Was Thomas Merton in a fantasy-land all his career?
>> 
>> US Army Recruiting says: "Be All You Can Be."
>> 
>> They may not use much imagination, but they use initiative.
>> 
>> I think you choose -- and that you personally have chosen -- the world you 
>> need to live in, and I think, too, that you are continuously shackled by 
>> blinders and conditioning, and pulled by threads from the beginningless 
>> past. We all are. Just admit it.
>> 
>> To snipe at how others live, and why, is just sniping; and it is sad to see, 
>> given the facts.
>> 
>> I don't criticize you for your life choices, or compulsions, Edgar: I 
>> criticize you for Sniping.
>> 
>> "Mindlessly meditating" is a good one though, I'll grant! ;-)
>> 
>> Something for you to aspire to.
>> 
>> "Be All You Can't"!
>> 
>> --Joe
>> 
>> PS Yes, I note the smile-face at conclusion of your post: some levity for 
>> you in return, before your power goes out. Got Ice?
>> 
>> > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>> >
>> > Sad commentary! Reminds me of a bunch of Zen monks all mindlessly 
>> > mediating all by themselves rather than INTERACTING in the real world!
>> > :-)
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