a win at last...merle
Merle, Yes, we both caught this. Bill has FINALLY agreed with what we've been trying to tell him - that Zen must be in everyday life in the world of forms as well as when sitting. This is a GREAT advancement in realization by Bill! Edgar On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > billlllllll:...how many times have i tried to tell you...as has edgar..the >real world..is where zen is at?...merle > >Suresh, > >You are correct, IMO... Zen practice must eventually be done in the 'real >world' - like the busy city or the supermarket. > >I think though when beginning to practice it is easier to limit distractions. >That's why when we begin we are taught to sit (zazen)in a quiet, dimly lit >room; comfortable clothes; not too hot or too cold; half-closed, unfocused >eyes gazing at the floor or a wall; burning incense to give a consistent odor, >etc... These are all done to minimize excitation of your senses. Realizing >Buddha Nature is much easier in an environment such as this. > >Later however as you pointed out it is very important to be able to realize >Buddha Nature in the hustle and bustle of everyday life. > >...Bill! > >--- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: >> >> Merely: How much more difficult is it to attain Buddha-hood in the >> supermarket??????? >> Surely the true test is when you live the full life in the real world??????. >> >> Suresh: This is what I look for, Buddha-hood while living in the same >> environment. The thinker or the seer should disappear, will it? >> >> Edger: Why have you not done as your hero Shakyamuni did, then? He >> left society for a while to practice. See what nice thing happened for >> him? >> >> Suresh: The present world is not like that. I see people everywhere >> even the remotest area possible. I went to Thiruvannamalai – >> skandasramam where Ramana Maharishi meditated for 7 years. But now >> that area also so many people. There are brokers to show you where >> Ramana Maharishi meditated, what can we do now? >> >> Leaving family is impossible. Can one able to accept whatever the >> condition he is in? The mind always thinks that it would be better if >> it is not in the place where it is now. I am where I am, it cannot be >> changed, but acceptance of who I am and where I am can bring changes, >> what do you say? >> >> Joe: A teacher is needed to help us persist the right way(s). >> >> Suresh: Do you mean a teacher in living body form? Why not a teacher >> be a book? Or why not it is nature? or why not it is a situation? >> >> Joe: I suppose you have various practices, such as what Ramana >> Maharshi taught. In Zen practice, we have zazen, formless meditation. >> It is easy to learn, but not easy to teach. >> >> Suresh: Can a word describe what truth is? Ramana Maharishi taught all >> methods, but people read little and understand little. Writing this >> letter is zen do you know this? >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Thanks and best regards >> J.Suresh >> New No.3, Old No.7, >> Chamiers road - 1st Lane, >> Alwarpet, >> Chennai - 600018 >> Ph: 044 42030947 >> Mobile: 91 9884071738 >> > > > > > >
