Merle, Congratulatory hugs are in order for our compatriot Bill!
Edgar On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:26 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > > > a win at last...merle > > > > Merle, > > Yes, we both caught this. Bill has FINALLY agreed with what we've been trying > to tell him - that Zen must be in everyday life in the world of forms as well > as when sitting. > > This is a GREAT advancement in realization by Bill! > > Edgar > > > > > On Nov 20, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Merle Lester wrote: > >> >> >> >> billlllllll:...how many times have i tried to tell you...as has edgar..the >> real world..is where zen is at?...merle >> >> Suresh, >> >> You are correct, IMO... Zen practice must eventually be done in the 'real >> world' - like the busy city or the supermarket. >> >> I think though when beginning to practice it is easier to limit >> distractions. That's why when we begin we are taught to sit (zazen)in a >> quiet, dimly lit room; comfortable clothes; not too hot or too cold; >> half-closed, unfocused eyes gazing at the floor or a wall; burning incense >> to give a consistent odor, etc... These are all done to minimize excitation >> of your senses. Realizing Buddha Nature is much easier in an environment >> such as this. >> >> Later however as you pointed out it is very important to be able to realize >> Buddha Nature in the hustle and bustle of everyday life. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In [email protected], SURESH JAGADEESAN <varamtha@...> wrote: >> > >> > Merely: How much more difficult is it to attain Buddha-hood in the >> > supermarket??????? >> > Surely the true test is when you live the full life in the real >> > world??????. >> > >> > Suresh: This is what I look for, Buddha-hood while living in the same >> > environment. The thinker or the seer should disappear, will it? >> > >> > Edger: Why have you not done as your hero Shakyamuni did, then? He >> > left society for a while to practice. See what nice thing happened for >> > him? >> > >> > Suresh: The present world is not like that. I see people everywhere >> > even the remotest area possible. I went to Thiruvannamalai – >> > skandasramam where Ramana Maharishi meditated for 7 years. But now >> > that area also so many people. There are brokers to show you where >> > Ramana Maharishi meditated, what can we do now? >> > >> > Leaving family is impossible. Can one able to accept whatever the >> > condition he is in? The mind always thinks that it would be better if >> > it is not in the place where it is now. I am where I am, it cannot be >> > changed, but acceptance of who I am and where I am can bring changes, >> > what do you say? >> > >> > Joe: A teacher is needed to help us persist the right way(s). >> > >> > Suresh: Do you mean a teacher in living body form? Why not a teacher >> > be a book? Or why not it is nature? or why not it is a situation? >> > >> > Joe: I suppose you have various practices, such as what Ramana >> > Maharshi taught. In Zen practice, we have zazen, formless meditation. >> > It is easy to learn, but not easy to teach. >> > >> > Suresh: Can a word describe what truth is? Ramana Maharishi taught all >> > methods, but people read little and understand little. Writing this >> > letter is zen do you know this? >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Thanks and best regards >> > J.Suresh >> > New No.3, Old No.7, >> > Chamiers road - 1st Lane, >> > Alwarpet, >> > Chennai - 600018 >> > Ph: 044 42030947 >> > Mobile: 91 9884071738 >> > >> >> >> >> > > > > >
