Joe,

I have no problem if you consider Zen Buddhism your religion.  I also consider 
Zen Buddhism a religion.

I practice zen (lower case 'z').  It is not Zen Buddhism.  It's just zen sans 
Buddhism.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], "Joe" <desert_woodworker@...> wrote:
>
> Bill!,
> 
> Generalize all you want, but Zen Buddhism is my religion.  If I call it 
> "Zen", that goes with the territory.  But I am open to making needed 
> distinctions when anyone wishes, provided they can be made.  
> 
> We'll just have to see.
> 
> --Joe
> 
> PS  Note that my proof to Merle consisted of the words "Zen Buddhism".
> 
> PPS Zen Buddhism is a religion, and what it opens a practitioner to is Zen 
> (emptiness; no-mind; Compassion; and Wisdom).  Christianity is a religion, 
> and what it opens a practitioner to is Love (which is said to be "God").  
> Now, Love may not be a religion, but the Dalai Lama says, "Kindness is my 
> Religion".  It's all a bit of a personal thing, I guess you see.  I hope it's 
> VERY personal!  ;-)
> 
> > "Bill!" <BillSmart@> wrote:
> >
> > I just wanted to point out to everyone that I actually AGREE with Merle - 
> > zen is NOT a religion.  Buddhism however is.
>




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