Mike,

Yes, quite a come-down, eh?  Haven't you been in free-fall before?  I've 
trained on "the Vomit Comet".  ;-)

It's a fascinating background you have, to this hard-headed scientist.  I've 
never worked with criminals (inside...), but I recall some "Prison Projects" 
that certain US Zen teachers carried out, to bring Zen practice to prisons.  
Teachers would go in and teach zazen and hold interview, and hold discussions.  
I think it was very welcomed by some of the population.  I never thought I 
could do it then, but maybe now.  I think, after taking the first step, one 
knows what to do.  Maybe not!  I'm sure the fellows inside would teach me a 
lot, too, about how to be effective.

"A research interviewer for the Australian government" sounds absolutely 
fascinating, especially.  I get visions of some of the "interviews" I see in 
the fictional BBC series, "Spooks" (it's called "MI-5" here in the States).  
Nothing like that?  ;-)

Son of a hard-hat, here.  Dad was a Carpenter for 50 years, a Union man.  His 
young son became a philosopher and an astronomer, but I still revel in sawdust; 
I didn't fall far from the tree, nor from the wood, happily.  Dad was a 
philosopher, too, in his way; and a great Conservationist and Naturalist; even 
what they would have called in his generation a "Natural Philosopher."  I like 
that thought about him, best, in addition to "Carpenter".

Thanks for the insights about koans, through an... ooops, almost said the "A-" 
word... ...through YOUR eyes!  See, I don't have to put you in a category as a 
professional of one sort or another.  Are you still doing the work?  All done 
with all of it?  Time to watch grass grow, and paint dry?

More CPU-cycles thus available for Samadhi?  ;-)

May practice keep you in good nick, Mike.

--Joe

> mike brown <uerusuboyo@...> wrote:
> 
> Here's me defending people and their reputations and then you go and call me 
> an "Attorney". I thought we were friends!
> 
> No, any ideas of becoming a lawyer were quashed before the end of first year. 
> I hated the 'black letter' side of the law, but loved the more 
> jurisprudential and philosophical side. I was also a youth worker (B.Soc 
> Sci.) before I got into the graduate law programme, so was never really 
> interested in the commercial aspect of the law either. After 4 years of law 
> school I went into criminology and became a research interviewer for the 
> Australian government.
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