bill!!!!!!!! good one...we see common ground here!..merle Edgar,
Until we as a society can successfully establish a communistic economic system socialism is the best system we can strive for. Right now the best we can do is try to restrain and regulate our native capitalism with wealth redistribution tactics as are employed by our current form of Keynesian economics and continue to move it closer and closer to socialism. But maybe someday we can actually aspire to communism...we can only hope. ...Bill! --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > Joe, > > Perhaps, but the belief in taking other people's property and redistributing > it without their consent is an even more egregious attachment... > > Edgar > > > > On Dec 11, 2012, at 1:24 PM, Joe wrote: > > > Chris, > > > > The question itself speaks volumes. > > > >> Can one's belief in personal ownership be an attachment, a hindrance to > >> the mind's freedom? > > > > Well done! It is certainly on-topic, and is eloquent. > > > > I'm impressed by planning and decision-making that's guided by > > consideration for and appreciation of others' future stewardship. I think > > of the "Seven Generations" planning of actions taken by certain Native > > American tribal councils, the making of decisions with a concern and > > consideration for how planned actions, if executed, might effect even the > > seventh following generation of people and culture after the elders' > > actions. > > > > Such planning probably could not have taken into account the arrival of > > Europeans in America, and I don't know if the "Seven Generations" principle > > remains in play on Native Reservations to this day. > > > > --Joe > > > > -> Chris Austin-Lane <chris@> wrote: > >> > >> Can one's belief in personal ownership be an attachment, a hindrance to the > >> mind's freedom? > >> > >> It looks to me like it is, but perhaps we shouldn't argue politics and tax > >> policy here? > >> > >> Rather than share my partisan arguments, let me simply state that > >> reasonable people do disagree about these issues. Personally I am grateful > >> to have been born into a society that believes in vaccination public > >> schools voting research moon missions and the like. the society finds it > >> sensible to pay me for tasks which are enjoyable and allow me to learn and > >> to master myself, and that seems fine. I didn't create the society nor > >> more than a bit of its wealth, so I don't feel like much more than a > >> temporary steward of the assets I control. > >> > >> I do know not everyone shares such a perspective, and there's no profit in > >> arguing. I speak to offer the lurkers the data that the idea of capitalism > >> without a fixed idea of a personal self can take many forms. > >> > >> Yours in praeteritio, > > > > >
