HYS,
You seem confused. The message you`re responding to was my response to RAF`s 
assertion that certain ethnicities are more prone to genetically influenced 
violence than others. RAF used the example of the incarceration rate of 
African-Americans as an example. My post was refuting this by showing how 
caucasian (European/American) cultures have done worse things to Blacks than 
vice-versa and that most of the world`s large scale violence has been 
perpertrated by non-Black cultures. 
Mike
Ps  I was born in the UK, did all my schooling there and even served in the UK 
military. I don`t think a "couple of African friends on FB" gives you more 
insight into racism in Britain than mine. ; )

--- On Fri, 14/12/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion and zen
To: [email protected]
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On 12/13/12, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote:

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> Checked out your recommendations. Not impressed. In fact, seems close to

> scientific racism. Why are African-Americans singled out as particularly

> prone to violence due to their genetics?



Because a "European" or "Euro-centric" person conducted the study.



Weren`t they taken forcibily from

> their homeland by Europeans?



Not only that...400 years of enslavement and imperialism/colonization.



Wasn`t the American Civil War fought by white

> Americans about slavery?



No, African Americans also fought.  And it wasn't completely about

slavery either.



The Spanish Inquisition? Pol Pot? Stalin? Hitler?

> In the UK we don`t have any particular problem with the Black population.



I beg to differ.  I have a few African UK friends through FB that deal

with racism to this day.  Also, apartheid didn't end that long ago,

did it?  And how about the discrimination against the indigenous

people of Australia?



> Sorry, but it seems all culture and history driven driven to me. What`s next

> - the resurgence of phrenology?



Mike, read the Willie Lynch letter some time and learn some of the

techniques Europeans used to perpetuate the dependent psychology of

their slaves.  Which is still pervasive today.



Sorry to move so far off topic here.  To keep it on...I just recently

read about a woman Angel Kyodo Williams, a zen priestess/teacher from

NY.  Have you heard about her Joe?  She's written _Being Black: Zen

and the Art of Living with Fearlessness and Grace_.



Regards,



hong yeong soo



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> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion  and zen

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