HYS, I think we are all of African descent, but no, I`m caucasian (although being of Welsh Celtic stock, I do tan brown easily!).
Mike --- On Fri, 14/12/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion and zen To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 14 December, 2012, 15:13 Yeah, I got most of that. Then FWIW, are you of African descent? but i'll agree that you know more about the status of the UK. I'm just saying there are divergent grievances which i've been been spoken to about from the other side. Likewise if any one said that African Americans in the United States no longer experience racism, that would be complete horse excrement. hong yeong soo On 12/13/12, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > HYS, > You seem confused. The message you`re responding to was my response to RAF`s > assertion that certain ethnicities are more prone to genetically influenced > violence than others. RAF used the example of the incarceration rate of > African-Americans as an example. My post was refuting this by showing how > caucasian (European/American) cultures have done worse things to Blacks than > vice-versa and that most of the world`s large scale violence has been > perpertrated by non-Black cultures. > Mike > Ps I was born in the UK, did all my schooling there and even served in the > UK military. I don`t think a "couple of African friends on FB" gives you > more insight into racism in Britain than mine. ; ) > > --- On Fri, 14/12/12, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion and zen > To: [email protected] > Date: Friday, 14 December, 2012, 4:34 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mike, > > > > On 12/13/12, mike brown <[email protected]> wrote: > >> RAF. > >> > >> Checked out your recommendations. Not impressed. In fact, seems close to > >> scientific racism. Why are African-Americans singled out as particularly > >> prone to violence due to their genetics? > > > > Because a "European" or "Euro-centric" person conducted the study. > > > > Weren`t they taken forcibily from > >> their homeland by Europeans? > > > > Not only that...400 years of enslavement and imperialism/colonization. > > > > Wasn`t the American Civil War fought by white > >> Americans about slavery? > > > > No, African Americans also fought. And it wasn't completely about > > slavery either. > > > > The Spanish Inquisition? Pol Pot? Stalin? Hitler? > >> In the UK we don`t have any particular problem with the Black population. > > > > I beg to differ. I have a few African UK friends through FB that deal > > with racism to this day. Also, apartheid didn't end that long ago, > > did it? And how about the discrimination against the indigenous > > people of Australia? > > > >> Sorry, but it seems all culture and history driven driven to me. What`s >> next > >> - the resurgence of phrenology? > > > > Mike, read the Willie Lynch letter some time and learn some of the > > techniques Europeans used to perpetuate the dependent psychology of > > their slaves. Which is still pervasive today. > > > > Sorry to move so far off topic here. To keep it on...I just recently > > read about a woman Angel Kyodo Williams, a zen priestess/teacher from > > NY. Have you heard about her Joe? She's written _Being Black: Zen > > and the Art of Living with Fearlessness and Grace_. > > > > Regards, > > > > hong yeong soo > > > >> > >> Mike > >> > >> --- On Thu, 13/12/12, R A Fonda <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> From: R A Fonda <[email protected]> > >> Subject: Re: [Zen] Re: Compassion and zen > >> To: [email protected] > >> Date: Thursday, 13 December, 2012, 3:11 > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 12/12/2012 3:21 AM, mike brown wrote: > >> I`m not sure that certain ethic groups do have a > >> higher propensity to wage war. > >> > >> > >> It sounds as if you are unfamiliar with both the anthropology > >> and genetic data. For the anthropology I suggest Napoleon Chagnon; > >> for a glimpse at the tip of a genetic iceberg you could start > >> here: > >> > >> > >> > >> http://search.yahoo.com/search?ei=utf-8&fr=ytff1-w3i&p=warrior%20gene%20wiki&type=W3i_YT,192,2_1,Search,20110210,17364,0,16,0 > >> > >> > >> > >> It seems much more to do with historical factors and > >> culture. > >> > >> > >> Culture is just a manifestation of genetics. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Canadians basically share the same ethnicity as Amercans > >> > >> > >> Neither Canadians nor Americans are ethnies, but Canadians are > >> still mostly of the Euro-descendant genetic kindred. If you look > >> at the US crime statistics you will see that there is almost an > >> order of magnitude difference in commission of violent crime > >> between Euros and people of African extraction; back to genetics. > >> > >> > >> > >> RAF > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
