Mike,

'Coldness' is an illusion produced by the senses. There is no coldness in the 
actual real world where all that actually exists is empty information forms 
evolving in the sea of ontological energy (Buddha Nature/Tao).

Edgar



On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:10 AM, mike wrote:

> Siska,
> 
> I hear that. If you (not you!) "think" you're enlightened you have a problem. 
> You have to know it in the same way you know your iced-tea is cold when you 
> drink it.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In [email protected], siska_cen@... wrote:
> >
> > It's not a useful exercise, but it's probably useful to know that we're not 
> > enlightened when we think we are.
> > 
> > Siska
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "mike" <uerusuboyo@...>
> > Sender: [email protected]
> > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:57:06 
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Reply-To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Zen] hand up!
> > 
> > I think it's a useless exercise to concern ourselves who is enlightened... 
> > or not. There is no objective way of knowing anyway. Just trust your 
> > intuition.
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], siska <siska_cen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yes, myself ;)
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sent from Samsung tabletEdgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:LOL! It's easy to 
> > > tell who is NOT!
> > > 
> > > :-)
> > > 
> > > Edgar
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Mar 23, 2013, at 12:59 AM, siska wrote:
> > > 
> > > Â 
> > > 
> > > Is this a koan or something? 
> > > 
> > > Who can tell anyone is awakened or not?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Sent from Samsung tablet
> > > 
> > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote:
> > > Â 
> > > 
> > > question: who is the awakened ONE in this group? ..merle
> > > Â 
> > > Merle
> > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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