Mike, What I keep telling the group without it apparently registering is that its illusion is its reality....
Illusion seen as illusion IS reality... But that requires the discriminating mind to first ID what is and what is not illusion.... A task beyond the standard Zennists here.... Edgar On Mar 23, 2013, at 10:18 AM, mike wrote: > Edgar, > > Good luck eating an illusory sweet lemon then! > > Mike > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote: > > > > Mike, > > > > 'Coldness' is an illusion produced by the senses. There is no coldness in > > the actual real world where all that actually exists is empty information > > forms evolving in the sea of ontological energy (Buddha Nature/Tao). > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2013, at 8:10 AM, mike wrote: > > > > > Siska, > > > > > > I hear that. If you (not you!) "think" you're enlightened you have a > > > problem. You have to know it in the same way you know your iced-tea is > > > cold when you drink it. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > --- In [email protected], siska_cen@ wrote: > > > > > > > > It's not a useful exercise, but it's probably useful to know that we're > > > > not enlightened when we think we are. > > > > > > > > Siska > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: "mike" <uerusuboyo@> > > > > Sender: [email protected] > > > > Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2013 11:57:06 > > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Zen] hand up! > > > > > > > > I think it's a useless exercise to concern ourselves who is > > > > enlightened... or not. There is no objective way of knowing anyway. > > > > Just trust your intuition. > > > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], siska <siska_cen@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes, myself ;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tabletEdgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:LOL! It's easy > > > > > to tell who is NOT! > > > > > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 23, 2013, at 12:59 AM, siska wrote: > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Is this a koan or something? > > > > > > > > > > Who can tell anyone is awakened or not? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent from Samsung tablet > > > > > > > > > > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > question: who is the awakened ONE in this group? ..merle > > > > >  > > > > > Merle > > > > > www.wix.com/merlewiitpom/1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
