Joe,
Not confident all my suggestions stand on their own. The intent was to form a collage that possibly communicated. In the case of fonts on group website, one could argue that it is not the sender, but web site with ultimate control of fonts. It is not important and diverges from the point about language.

A ZEN cop might be someone who attempts to enforce one view of ZEN. A very difficult endeavor given the limitations of language.

all the best, Jeff



On 03/28/2013 10:49 AM, Joe wrote:

Howdy, Jeff,

For one who reads and posts ONLY via the Group's website, and not by email, I note that the font I view in a post is the font selected by the sender.

Language certainly influences how we think, or poets would not choose their with such care.

Words only have to suggest absolutes if you think so (think that they do).

Poets don't think so. ;-)

And in the relative plane, there are no absolutes / is no absolute.

We practice -- some of us -- to awaken. After awakening, practice changes, but we must continue practice: It is possible and likely for the doors to close and the windows to go dirty or black again. No matter: pick up practice again, and the doors swing in their jambs, and the windows of perception become cleaner, or are suddenly removed entirely from their frames. And there's no inside or outside of the house ...and no house. Then, anywhere is home.

Now, what's that about a Zen cop? Over my head. Tell a bit more?

If you meant this for Merle, she'll chime-in, I'm sure.

Good to see you,

--Joe

> jeff <linuxasm@...> wrote:
>
> On 03/27/2013 11:03 PM, Merle Lester wrote:
> >
> > > so group..who's been fonting lately?...merle
> >
> All,
> Isn't fonting controlled by either recipient or sender? Are words also
> jointly defined? Does not language influence how we think and suggest
> our ideas are absolute? Isn't our world fuzzy and changing with few
> absolutes? And is ZEN a changing process or a "thing"? Once enlightened
> do we still need to practice or is "practice" part of enlightenment?
>
> All this is a comment on previous threads. The point being: words are
> crude pointers to ZEN and not ZEN. We may want to discount absolute
> statements and ideas from language. Possibly a good semantics course
> could be found along the path.
>
> Another possible conclusion might be: it is very difficult being a ZEN
> cop. It is like controlling pudding with a tooth pick.
>
> from way out in left field, all the best, Jeff
>



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