Edgar,

I wasn't trying to get you to back the article, I was just wanting your 
opinion.  Do you think psychological experiments like this where deception is 
used to see what kind of reaction it causes is gives 'scientific' results?  I 
don't.  I think it gives some strong anecdotal evidence, but not scientific 
evidence.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Posted as FYI....
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Bill! wrote:
> 
> > Edgar,
> > 
> > Of course I have no disagreement and I'd like to believe the conclusion of 
> > this article, but do you agree with it that the tests they ran could be 
> > called 'scientific'?
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Can meditation make you a more compassionate person?
> > > > April 1st, 2013 in Psychology & Psychiatry=20
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Scientists have mostly focused on the benefits of meditation for the 
> > > > brain =
> > > > and the body, but a recent study by Northeastern University's David 
> > > > DeSteno=
> > > > , published in Psychological Science, takes a look at what impacts 
> > > > meditati=
> > > > on has on interpersonal harmony and compassion.
> > > > 
> > > > Several religious traditions have suggested that meditation does just 
> > > > that,=
> > > > but there has been no scientific proof-until now.
> > > > 
> > > > In this study, a team of researchers from Northeastern University and 
> > > > Harva=
> > > > rd University examined the effects meditation would have on compassion 
> > > > and =
> > > > virtuous behavior, and the results were fascinating.
> > > > 
> > > > The study
> > > > 
> > > > This study-funded by the Mind and Life Institute-invited participants 
> > > > to co=
> > > > mplete eight-week trainings in two types of meditation. After the 
> > > > sessions,=
> > > > they were put to the test.
> > > > 
> > > > Sitting in a staged waiting room with three chairs were two actors. 
> > > > With on=
> > > > e empty chair left, the participant sat down and waited to be called. 
> > > > Anoth=
> > > > er actor using crutches and appearing to be in great physical pain, 
> > > > would t=
> > > > hen enter the room. As she did, the actors in the chair would ignore 
> > > > her by=
> > > > fiddling with their phones or opening a book.
> > > > 
> > > > The question DeSteno and Paul Condon - a graduate student in DeSteno's 
> > > > lab =
> > > > who led the study - and their team wanted to answer was whether the 
> > > > subject=
> > > > s who took part in the meditation classes would be more likely to come 
> > > > to t=
> > > > he aid of the person in pain, even in the face of everyone else 
> > > > ignoring he=
> > > > r. "We know meditation improves a person's own physical and 
> > > > psychological w=
> > > > ellbeing," said Condon. "We wanted to know whether it actually 
> > > > increases co=
> > > > mpassionate behavior."
> > > > 
> > > > Meditation works
> > > > 
> > > > Among the non-meditating participants, only about 15 percent of people 
> > > > acte=
> > > > d to help. But among the participants who were in the meditation 
> > > > sessions "=
> > > > we were able to boost that up to 50 percent," said DeSteno. This result 
> > > > was=
> > > > true for both meditation groups thereby showing the effect to be 
> > > > consisten=
> > > > t across different forms of meditation. "The truly surprising aspect of 
> > > > thi=
> > > > s finding is that meditation made people willing to act virtuous - to 
> > > > help =
> > > > another who was suffering - even in the face of a norm not to do so," 
> > > > DeSte=
> > > > no said, "The fact that the other actors were ignoring the pain creates 
> > > > as =
> > > > 'bystander-effect' that normally tends to reduce helping. People often 
> > > > wond=
> > > > er 'Why should I help someone if no one else is?'"
> > > > 
> > > > These results appear to prove what the Buddhist theologians have long 
> > > > belie=
> > > > ved-that meditation is supposed to lead you to experience more 
> > > > compassion a=
> > > > nd love for all sentient beings. But even for non-Buddhists, the 
> > > > findings o=
> > > > ffer scientific proof for meditation techniques to alter the calculus 
> > > > of th=
> > > > e moral mind.
> > > > 
> > > > Provided by Northeastern University
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > "Can meditation make you a more compassionate person?." April 1st, 
> > > > 2013. ht=
> > > > tp://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-04-meditation-compassionate-person.html
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> >
>




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