I wasn't very impressed by it...

On Apr 2, 2013, at 10:33 AM, Bill! wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> I wasn't trying to get you to back the article, I was just wanting your 
> opinion. Do you think psychological experiments like this where deception is 
> used to see what kind of reaction it causes is gives 'scientific' results? I 
> don't. I think it gives some strong anecdotal evidence, but not scientific 
> evidence.
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
> >
> > Posted as FYI....
> > 
> > Edgar
> > 
> > 
> > On Apr 2, 2013, at 9:03 AM, Bill! wrote:
> > 
> > > Edgar,
> > > 
> > > Of course I have no disagreement and I'd like to believe the conclusion 
> > > of this article, but do you agree with it that the tests they ran could 
> > > be called 'scientific'?
> > > 
> > > ...Bill!
> > > 
> > > --- In [email protected], Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Can meditation make you a more compassionate person?
> > > > > April 1st, 2013 in Psychology & Psychiatry=20
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Scientists have mostly focused on the benefits of meditation for the 
> > > > > brain =
> > > > > and the body, but a recent study by Northeastern University's David 
> > > > > DeSteno=
> > > > > , published in Psychological Science, takes a look at what impacts 
> > > > > meditati=
> > > > > on has on interpersonal harmony and compassion.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Several religious traditions have suggested that meditation does just 
> > > > > that,=
> > > > > but there has been no scientific proof-until now.
> > > > > 
> > > > > In this study, a team of researchers from Northeastern University and 
> > > > > Harva=
> > > > > rd University examined the effects meditation would have on 
> > > > > compassion and =
> > > > > virtuous behavior, and the results were fascinating.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The study
> > > > > 
> > > > > This study-funded by the Mind and Life Institute-invited participants 
> > > > > to co=
> > > > > mplete eight-week trainings in two types of meditation. After the 
> > > > > sessions,=
> > > > > they were put to the test.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sitting in a staged waiting room with three chairs were two actors. 
> > > > > With on=
> > > > > e empty chair left, the participant sat down and waited to be called. 
> > > > > Anoth=
> > > > > er actor using crutches and appearing to be in great physical pain, 
> > > > > would t=
> > > > > hen enter the room. As she did, the actors in the chair would ignore 
> > > > > her by=
> > > > > fiddling with their phones or opening a book.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The question DeSteno and Paul Condon - a graduate student in 
> > > > > DeSteno's lab =
> > > > > who led the study - and their team wanted to answer was whether the 
> > > > > subject=
> > > > > s who took part in the meditation classes would be more likely to 
> > > > > come to t=
> > > > > he aid of the person in pain, even in the face of everyone else 
> > > > > ignoring he=
> > > > > r. "We know meditation improves a person's own physical and 
> > > > > psychological w=
> > > > > ellbeing," said Condon. "We wanted to know whether it actually 
> > > > > increases co=
> > > > > mpassionate behavior."
> > > > > 
> > > > > Meditation works
> > > > > 
> > > > > Among the non-meditating participants, only about 15 percent of 
> > > > > people acte=
> > > > > d to help. But among the participants who were in the meditation 
> > > > > sessions "=
> > > > > we were able to boost that up to 50 percent," said DeSteno. This 
> > > > > result was=
> > > > > true for both meditation groups thereby showing the effect to be 
> > > > > consisten=
> > > > > t across different forms of meditation. "The truly surprising aspect 
> > > > > of thi=
> > > > > s finding is that meditation made people willing to act virtuous - to 
> > > > > help =
> > > > > another who was suffering - even in the face of a norm not to do so," 
> > > > > DeSte=
> > > > > no said, "The fact that the other actors were ignoring the pain 
> > > > > creates as =
> > > > > 'bystander-effect' that normally tends to reduce helping. People 
> > > > > often wond=
> > > > > er 'Why should I help someone if no one else is?'"
> > > > > 
> > > > > These results appear to prove what the Buddhist theologians have long 
> > > > > belie=
> > > > > ved-that meditation is supposed to lead you to experience more 
> > > > > compassion a=
> > > > > nd love for all sentient beings. But even for non-Buddhists, the 
> > > > > findings o=
> > > > > ffer scientific proof for meditation techniques to alter the calculus 
> > > > > of th=
> > > > > e moral mind.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Provided by Northeastern University
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > "Can meditation make you a more compassionate person?." April 1st, 
> > > > > 2013. ht=
> > > > > tp://medicalxpress.com/news/2013-04-meditation-compassionate-person.html
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 

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