Mike,

Unfortunately there are other ways to express yourself besides honestly.  I 
appreciate the way you've chosen, or better yet maybe choice wasn't even 
involved if as you say for your there is no other way.

I also understand what you're saying but for me I need to draw a distinct line 
between experience and illusion - especially on a site dedicated to zen.

...Bill!

--- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> <br/>Bill!,<br/><br/>To be honest (is there any other way?), I have no 
> problem with expressing my path as a spiritual path. I'd even go so far as to 
> say Zen is a mystical path. When we transcend the self - body and mind drop 
> away - we're 'in a place' that the mystics would recognise. I get what you're 
> saying - there is no soul or spirit as a thing - but it's so beyond every day 
> life (especially if we're following a moral and compassionate practice) that 
> 'spiritual' captures the difference quite well (I appreciate my Vipassana 
> influences this perspective, but I've come across many Zen teachers who 
> describe their practice as a spiritual 
> practice).<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone
>




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