mike..i understand this... that's how i see it..merle Bill!,
>I don't know anything about Vipassana meditation. Obviously ; ) Actually, if you've ever read a book on Zen or listened to a Zen Roshi's talk, then you've heard Vipassana. Bill!, you're just in denial! Take Zen's 'Eat when hungry, sleep when tired'. A great example of cause and effect created by conditions. Mike Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPhone ________________________________ From: Bill! <[email protected]>; To: <[email protected]>; Subject: [Zen] Types of Meditation Sent: Sun, Apr 14, 2013 9:08:30 AM William, IMO... 'Zazen' means to 'sit zen' in Japanese and for me ONLY refers to shikantaza, however in Zen Buddhism it can refer to sitting while performing any number of activities such as counting breaths, chanting and working on koans. 'Shikantaza' means 'just sit' in Japanese and for me implies you are only sitting and doing nothing else. This includes thinking. Shikantaza is also referred to as 'clear mind' or 'no mind'. I don't know anything about Vipassana meditation. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], William Rintala <brintala@...> wrote: > > I'm sure that you have all discussed this before and at the risk of another > war > of words can you tell me what the differences are between Shikantaza, > Vipassana > and Zazen and why you prefer one over the other? I sit with a group of > Tibetan > Buddhists, I need to ask them what is the name that they have for our > meditation > style. The leader is a devotee/follower of Pema Chodran. The Dali Lama > is visiting our city in a few weeks and she is urging me to come and be > present > for that. > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Joe <desert_woodworker@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, April 13, 2013 1:53:57 PM > Subject: [Zen] Re: Introduction > >  > Edgar, > > Very interesting! Not a CNC program, was it, as for machine-shop milling tool > control? For a robo-loom, I mean. Or a prgm. to generate patterns to print on > a > printer? I bet it could do colorful work. This is something that might also > interest Merle. And maybe folks can still run the software? Kudos, > > --Joe > > > Edgar Owen <edgarowen@> wrote: > > > > Joe and Charles, > > > > FYI I wrote and marketed a computer weaving design program called Mindweave > >when I was running my software business prior to my current ancient art > >business... >
