Merle, See my previous reply. Both are illusory.
In the case of Yin/Yang they are presented as an analog (relativistic) system instead of the usual Good/Bad digital (absolutist) system. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > so bill:,,,how come there is ying and yang?.... which one is the > illusion?..merle > > > > Mike, > > There are not two sides of the coin. There is only one. What you perceive > as the 'other side' is a dualistic - an illusion. > > The illusion of 'being human' and believing that to be 'special' or 'unique' > is no different from the illusion of self. Both these illusions (all > illusions really) only server to create an illusory distinction from what you > then perceive is 'everything else'. Duality is this two-sided coin you have > created. > > Of course I suffer. I do so because I get sucked into (attach) to illusion > the same as everyone else. Even after attaching to illusion and when the > attachment fades enough I then do remember that this is all illusion; and yes > it does ameliorate the immediate suffering and eventually dissolves it > entirely. > > I would certainly comfort someone who is suffering. I would try to assure > them that things will get better. BUT, even in their time of greatest sorrow > if they asked me IN ALL EARNESTNESS (as is the litany in most koans) how to > alleviate the suffering I would tell them the truth. Suffering is caused by > attachment to illusions. I would actually not just tell them this but would > suggest they sit (zazen) because just telling someone something is not really > effective. They must experience it for themselves. I personally don't > believe misleading someone is helpful to bring them to this experience. > > I sometimes feel you display a balanced, patronizing relativism that may > serve to reinforce your illusion of compassion, but in practice falls > woefully short. > > The koan HYAKUJO AND THE FOX was indeed about the percieved interplay between > absolutism and relativism. The warning however was not just about > absolutism, it included relativism also. > > ...Bill! > . > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
