hi group.

i thought you might be interested in this discussion i had with a friend ..

you will have to read his email first so begin at the bottom...

 any thoughts?... am i on track?
 
 merle


 
(my reply)..centrelink is the name for i government welfare agency in australia
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>while you" wait in line".......huffing and puffing and" hating every moment" 
>of so called "wasted" time ..
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>you are not experiencing the moment...you are longing to be somewhere 
>else...an illusion.....
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>it is not zen what you are referring to... 
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>you'd get on great guns with edgar on zen group..he is forever trying to 
>convince the group his special little brand of zen...whereas mike, bill  joe  
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>these guys are not fools by any means... they have all spent time back in the 
>youth  with zen masters..some in japan... so i have a great deal of respect 
>for what they are saying..
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>joe's favourite mantra is "strong practise"...
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>the great spirit is not confined to a mango tree...
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>it is in every corner and every cranny of life... 
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>you will find it at centrelink..
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>i have had long discussions with the zen group with my "zen in the 
>supermarket", and "dancing with daffodils"... 
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>once you make the realisation you will see it's as simple as this..
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>your statements here contradict each other..
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>you say zen is everywhere...no special time... then you hanker for the "mango 
>tree" experience..
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> to become an "expert " at archery you have to practise..
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>everything in life requires practise.....and so with zen...
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> if you feel you don't need to or more likely don't want to well that's your 
>business however i note a taste of sarcasm and cynicism in your wording..this 
>certainly is not zen
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> i trust the day will bring some fruit in terms of your work cover etc
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> and be a little bit grateful you are perhaps not "waiting in line" to enter 
>the gas chambers at auschwitz ..
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>then you'd well and truly savour ever single breath you have and taste the 
>moment as it is...
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> beautiful autumn day unfolds at 8:30am
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> take it easy..and as joe says "strong practise"
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> with love merle
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>>Is the birdies, oooh hoooh, they go, oooh hoooh, is daytime.
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>>Yes, but.  This is the socially tricky way of saying no, and no is 
what I mean.
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>>When one is one, one IS zen.  Then we don’t practise zen, we be zen, 
we are zen.  There is no special time for this.  Practise?  Know 
zen, and then practise of it makes no sense.  The zen archer doesn’t 
practise archery.  The zen archer simply hits the target.  Surely you 
should know this.
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>>So here’s the big secret.  If I have to wait in a line for any 
extended period of time, I resent it.  It’s an unpleasant situation.  
There’s no less zen and no more zen about it.  Ok, it’s an opportunity to 
do some deep breathing, inhaling the contagion of the other creatures in 
line.  I resent it, because it’s time I could otherwise have spent being 
closer to the great spirit that lives in my mango tree ...  and closer to 
the birdies ... oooh hoooh, they go, oooh hoooh, is daytime.
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>>Love
>>John
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>>Subject: Fwd: RSA Animate - The Secret Powers of Time - 
YouTube
>>  practise 
your zen when you are waiting in a line..you'd be surprised..".the secret of 
line waiting" will be revealed .. 
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>>and ya never know  it would make a great song
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>>with love merle
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>>>Subject: RSA  Animate - The Secret Powers of Time - YouTube
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>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3oIiH7BLmg 
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