Merle,
It's just a compensation for the fellow. It's like in any other religion, you
know, not just the religion of the model-addicted. "Doctrine" is created by
the reasoning mind, to systematize in thought and schema what is discovered or
recovered by mystical experience or direct-contemplation. Reason does not and
cannot discover anything about our true nature, because reason is not an
Observer; but reason can make a fake structure (a model) that is of some
comfort to some, and which can be used in religions sometimes to impose control
over followers and over non-followers. That's the stage of work Edgar is at.
He may once, sometime, have had an opening, but I doubt it very much.
Completely. He says instead he's trying to do that work by reason. That's why
I call "reason" for him and others in that resigned condition a "compensation":
Like an old man buying a convertible, or an impotent redneck buying the biggest
pickup on the lot. It's pitiable; but, Human! We've got to give him that.
Meanwhile, others here are not polluted by the persistent spectacle appearing
here of that gelded form of "Zen"-work, because that work is NOT Zen. It does
not go with the territory. And to get into this territory, modelling and
thought remains out, until it is invited in as a tool, which is sometimes
useful, to other projects. The blinds are rolled up when needed; and then
rolled down, as in the famous koan.
One needs an eye to see. When one cannot obtain the eye, one scrambles -- even
through self-deception -- for compensation. There is no compensation
available. The attempt leads to exhaustion, death, and the harming of others.
This happens to all dedicated manics who have no teacher.
Reason alone is fine. But it is not a substitute for that for which there is
no substitute.
Merle, do you get it?
--Joe
> Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>
> edgar
>
> we need to clarify what is the meaning of reason...
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