yes bill..i know einstein was opposed to bomb however did he protest at it's 
use when the time came?..merle


  
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...Bill!--- In [email protected], "Bill!"  wrote:
>
> William!
> 
> Talk about laying landmines...
> 
> I ASSUME by the phrase 'ending the War with Japan' you're referring to the 
> atomic bombs dropped there; and I also ASSUME you're relating these 
> war-ending bombs back to Einstein's theories.  If I've read this wrong please 
> let me know.  The reason I accuse you of burying this landmine is that (as 
> I'm sure you know) Einstein was vehemently opposed to using any of his work 
> as the basis for building weapons - especially the atomic bomb; so the 
> 'credit' should not go to Einstein but to other scientists (mathematicians 
> and physicists) and engineers of that era - like Oppenheimer maybe?
> 
> That said I will answer your question but I'll rephrase it just a little bit: 
>  It is more in line with my zen practice (not more important) to be a good 
> parent (not raise a good child) than it is to develop technology (even if it 
> did help end a war).
> 
> I've made previous reference to a circa 1945 essay by Arthur Koestler 
> entitled THE YOGI AND THE COMMISSAR.  It explores the two different 
> approaches to 'changing the world'.  The commissar attempts to change people 
> by changing society through governmental laws and acts.  The yogi attempts to 
> change people by first changing himself, and then one other person, and then 
> one other, etc...  The commissar works from the top down whereas the yogi 
> from the bottom up.  I suppose in this case you could substitute 'scientist' 
> for 'commissar'.
> 
> The zen I've been taught and practice is definitively a 'bottom up' approach. 
>  So is being a good parent.
> 
> I'M STILL ANXIOUS TO READ EDGAR'S RESPONSE TO MERLE'S ORIGINAL QUESTION: 
> "...and the point to make here is: what is the greater task: raising the good 
> child or figuring out relativity?" 
> 
> ...Bill!
> 
> --- In [email protected], William Rintala brintala@ wrote:
> >
> > I'd like to weigh in here.  The question is way too nebulous to answer and 
> > is 
> > fraught with many linguistic landmines.  I am certain that Adolph and 
> > Osama and 
> > Jeffrey Dahmer's mothers all raised good children.  Einstein's greatest 
> > achievement wasn't his work on Relativity where he postulated that events 
> > viewed 
> > from different planes of reference appeared to obey different laws of 
> > physics.  
> > His greatest acheivement was his mathematical proof that matter and energy 
> > were 
> > the same.  E=MC^2.  He also did work on the photovoltaic effect and I 
> > think that 
> > it was what one hime his Nobel Prize.  He devoted his later life to 
> > working on a 
> > Unified Field Theorem which I believe he never finished.  So which is the 
> > greater task raising Jeffry Dahmer or ending the War with Japan?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bill! BillSmart@
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 7:53:37 PM
> > Subject: [Zen] Re: blame game
> > 
> >   
> > Edgar,
> > 
> > Merle asked a brilliant question in her post below. I'd like to hear your 
> > answer. The question was:
> > 
> > "...and the point to make here is: what is the greater task: raising the 
> > good 
> > child or figuring out relativity?"
> > 
> > What say you?
> > 
> > ...Bill!
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  joe and edgar..
> > > 
> > > he was too busy inside his head..and some circles say he was with autism 
> > >spectrum..
> > > 
> > > leave the everyday work to wifey...who by the way was a scientist in her 
> > > own 
> > >right till she met up with einstein..
> > > 
> > > as all wifey's they ended up carrying the baby, tending to baby, tending 
> > > to the 
> > >everyday whist the smart hubby does his thingi... 
> > > 
> > > not so with madame curie though... 
> > > 
> > > you have to be a strong woman to stand up to the male chauvinist pig..and 
> > > that 
> > >was einstein.
> > > 
> > >  and the point to make here is: what is the greater task: raising the 
> > > good 
> > >child or figuring out relativity?
> > > 
> > >  the point we can make here is einstein need not have married...made 
> > > misery 
> > >for the wifey..
> > > 
> > > did he think before he leapt and began breeding?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > merle....  
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   
> > > Edgar,
> > > 
> > > Poor slob didn't or couldn't take care of himself. True statement.
> > > 
> > > --Joe
> > > 
> > > > Edgar Owen  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Merle,
> > > > 
> > > > Joe said Einstein was a jerk because he didn't comb his hair!
> > > > 
> > > > Is that Zen?
> > > > 
> > > > Edgar
> > >
> >
>

 

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