Merle, It's true Einstein did not speak out publicly against the atomic bomb until over a year after it was used on Japan. He also did encourage the US to build the bomb because he was afraid the Nazis would develop one first. But after he saw the destruction the bombs did he became a pacifist (although he described himself as a 'militant pacifist').
...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  yes bill..i know einstein was opposed to bomb however did he protest at > it's use when the time came?..merle > > >  > *** One correction(addition) and one modification (replacement) to my > post below: *** > > ...Bill!--- In [email protected], "Bill!" wrote: > > > > William! > > > > Talk about laying landmines... > > > > I ASSUME by the phrase 'ending the War with Japan' you're referring to the > > atomic bombs dropped there; and I also ASSUME you're relating these > > war-ending bombs back to Einstein's theories. If I've read this wrong > > please let me know. The reason I accuse you of burying this landmine is > > that (as I'm sure you know) Einstein was vehemently opposed to using any of > > his work as the basis for building weapons - especially the atomic bomb; so > > the 'credit' should not go to Einstein but to other scientists > > (mathematicians and physicists) and engineers of that era - like > > Oppenheimer maybe? > > > > That said I will answer your question but I'll rephrase it just a little > > bit: It is more in line with my zen practice (not more important) to be a > > good parent (not raise a good child) than it is to develop technology (even > > if it did help end a war). > > > > I've made previous reference to a circa 1945 essay by Arthur Koestler > > entitled THE YOGI AND THE COMMISSAR. It explores the two different > > approaches to 'changing the world'. The commissar attempts to change > > people by changing society through governmental laws and acts. The yogi > > attempts to change people by first changing himself, and then one other > > person, and then one other, etc... The commissar works from the top down > > whereas the yogi from the bottom up. I suppose in this case you could > > substitute 'scientist' for 'commissar'. > > > > The zen I've been taught and practice is definitively a 'bottom up' > > approach. So is being a good parent. > > > > I'M STILL ANXIOUS TO READ EDGAR'S RESPONSE TO MERLE'S ORIGINAL QUESTION: > > "...and the point to make here is: what is the greater task: raising the > > good child or figuring out relativity?" > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], William Rintala brintala@ wrote: > > > > > > I'd like to weigh in here.àThe question is way too nebulous to answer > > > and is > > > fraught with many linguistic landmines.àI am certain that Adolph and > > > Osama and > > > Jeffrey Dahmer's mothers all raised good children.àEinstein's > > > greatest > > > achievement wasn't his work on Relativity where he postulated that events > > > viewed > > > from different planes of reference appeared to obey different laws of > > > physics.à> > > His greatest acheivement was his mathematical proof that matter and > > > energy were > > > the same.àE=MC^2.àHe also did work on the photovoltaic effect and > > > I think that > > > it was what one hime his Nobel Prize.àHe devoted his later life to > > > working on a > > > Unified Field Theorem which I believe he never finished.àSo which is > > > the > > > greater task raising Jeffry Dahmer or ending the War with Japan? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Bill! BillSmart@ > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Sun, May 5, 2013 7:53:37 PM > > > Subject: [Zen] Re: blame game > > > > > > à> > > Edgar, > > > > > > Merle asked a brilliant question in her post below. I'd like to hear your > > > answer. The question was: > > > > > > "...and the point to make here is: what is the greater task: raising the > > > good > > > child or figuring out relativity?" > > > > > > What say you? > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâàjoe and edgar.. > > > > > > > > he was too busy inside his head..and some circles say he was with > > > > autism > > > >spectrum.. > > > > > > > > leave the everyday work to wifey...who by the way was a scientist in > > > > her own > > > >right till she met up with einstein.. > > > > > > > > as all wifey's they ended up carrying the baby, tending to baby, > > > > tending to the > > > >everyday whist the smart hubby does his thingi...Ãâà> > > > > > > > not so with madame curie though...Ãâà> > > > > > > > you have to be a strong woman to stand up to the male chauvinist > > > > pig..and that > > > >was einstein. > > > > > > > > Ãâàand the point to make here is: what is the greater task: > > > > raising the good > > > >child or figuring out relativity? > > > > > > > > Ãâàthe point we can make here is einstein need not have > > > > married...made misery > > > >for the wifey.. > > > > > > > > did he think before he leapt and began breeding? > > > > > > > > > > > > merle.... Ãâà> > > > Ãâà> > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > > Edgar, > > > > > > > > Poor slob didn't or couldn't take care of himself. True statement. > > > > > > > > --Joe > > > > > > > > > Edgar Owen wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Merle, > > > > > > > > > > Joe said Einstein was a jerk because he didn't comb his hair! > > > > > > > > > > Is that Zen? > > > > > > > > > > Edgar > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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