Suresh, I'm surprised this discussion on "If you meet the Buddha on the road, kill him" has ended up here with such controversy and animosity. This saying is very common in zen and in fact is even the title of a book. Here is a link that gives what I think is a pretty good write-up on what this saying means in the context of zen:
http://www.ordinarymind.com/html/kill_the_buddha.html <http://www.ordinarymind.com/html/kill_the_buddha.html> ...Bill! --- In [email protected], "Suresh" wrote: > > > Dear Joe, > > I am surprised to receive responses from different person then whom I addressed. I have answered to charles, he did not reply and now I have answered to Chris, he did not answer but you and Merele were replying. > > Why somebody answers for someone discussions? Why not same person. Your understanding his different from his understanding. > > I always notices that in discussions always erupts difference of opinion and hence I have said usage of words is useless. Words/languahe have duality. using this media I cannot communicate truth or for that matter anyone. > > Buddha nature is common just like sky is common for all. If one is attained Buddha nature there is no difference as you and I. Then where the question arises 'if You come across Buddha on the road side kill him' or Buddha concept? > > person attained Buddha nature do not see difference as I and you, then where is the question of coming across. There is no going and no coming. > > So you guys have no idea of Buddha nature and discuss these just to feel superior. Just look at yourself what is your inner most intention why you write? > > I feel pity on all of you. If you and other are in Buddha nature, how you guys got disturbed when I write stupidity flows like river? > > I am Dogen and I hammer you all to awaken. > > You can play with your words and write as if I am stupid. I am not hurt in anyways. > > Open your eyes and see what you are doing with this forum. You guys become old and lonely and this forum is one of the way to relate or to avoid your loneliness. How to feel some usefulness so you call you are all related by zen. > > I see Mr.Joe as another fanatic like any other religious fanatic. > > I have no attachment with any ism or any group. I AM FREE AS THIS SKY. > > best wishes > Suresh > --- In [email protected], "Joe" desert_woodworker@ wrote: > > > > Suresh, > > > > Don't be hasty, please. > > > > In the Zen tradition literature, there is INDEED the admonition that was discussed briefly, and which Chris interpreted helpfully here. Did you miss the interpretation? > > > > The admonition is: "If you meet the Buddha, kill the Buddha." I cannot and will not add to the interpretation that Chris provided. > > > > So... after learning this, do you still have a point you wish to make? I note that you have made no point so far, but instead you have made a good display of your lack of knowledge. Fortunately, that is not the kind of "Ignorance" which really hurts us and others in day-to-day life! So you may have *something* to contribute, if you put your mind to it, instead, rather than to cast aspersions. This is as I see it, a friendly separate entity. With hopes, > > > > Good morning, and good luck, > > > > --Joe > > > > > varamtha@ wrote: > > > > > > So you think you have answered intelligently. > > > > > > Mr.Charles did not made any reply. What do you know in what sense he wrote that. > > > > > > Please note you people are playing with words and think you are separate, a kind of separate identity and feel superior. I say you all just as stupid as anybody else. > > > > > > Mr.Charles correctly wrote the forum is only words and words and nothing else. > > > > > > If he meant buddha in concept, do you mean to say you kill Buddha concept when you come across. This is another stupidity. > > > > > > I see in this forum in the name of zen and buddha only stupidity is flowing like river. > > >
