Chris, I agree with your correction. I don't stop my thoughts, as in forcefully stop them, but I allow them to stop (quiesce)...Bill!
--- In [email protected], Chris Austin-Lane <chris@...> wrote: > > On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 7:15 PM, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > > > > I can will myself to think about the things I want to think about. There > > are also a lot of times I think about things spontaneously and even > > involuntarily. I can halt my thinking. That's what zazen/shikantaza is. > > > > Perhaps my distinction is silly, but I'm not talking about the subject of > the thought ("I need to think about tomorrow's schedule now -- ok go....") > but about the thought itself - "Oh god, I have to talk to X, can't stand > them." > > As far as stopping your thinking, I will take your word for it. When I > sit, my thinking can halt, but it is not me stopping it, it is me relaxing > and the natural quiet coming to the fore. Trying to will myself into > no-thinking isn't too useful. > > > > I agree that thoughts are perceptions, but then again in my terminology > > perceptions and illusions are pretty much the same thing. > > > > > Thanks, > > --Chris > chris@... > +1-301-270-6524 > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
