joe...there is such a thing as finding out for oneself..
i believe aldous huxley had a go at drugs...as did many in the 60's...
you might lecture folk about anti drug taking..however the more you lecture the 
more they will not listen to you... 
many cultures use drugs to "lift them from the every day"..
some lift more beautifully than others and are used in sacred ceremonies... 
it is wise to treat drugs with respect...
and joe lest we all forget you had your little battle with... was it whisky a 
year ago... 
the worst drug to damage the human body are cigarettes..and dare i say alcohol 
..remember when it all went underground in 1920's in america.. 
you can't stop folk from recreational drug taking..
all you can do is educate... 
so joe if you have never taken any drugs apart from caffeine best button thee 
the lips..cause you don't really know ..... 
also food is some what of a drug these days..witness the rise in obesity... 
what is not a" drug"?
and let us not forget the rise in prescription drugs all legal and in some 
cases real bad news!
 merle


  
Mike,

The body must be able to support wide-open functioning.  Drugs never enable 
this.

Too many people who take rather severe drugs have physical blocks of various 
kinds, and the actions and perceived "effects" of the drug are thus partially 
proper to the drug itself, and proper to the person's own physical problems 
(let's leave aside mental problems).

Thus, the drug experience is extremely perverse.

I say these things not at all in consideration of the Law, but in view of the 
wisdom and advisability of avoiding considering such entertainments or rash 
experiments.  Maybe those shamans in the cultures where this is traditional can 
get some cultural benefit for themselves and for their tribe, but I don't think 
it can be generalized, or universalized.

But I think we can state what can be universalized:

Body and Mind have an energy all their own; Drugs have a body and mind of their 
own.  Be careful!

Better to practice.  Practice prepares the body, conditions it, nourishes it, 
and enables it to serve as an open conduit of Wisdom and Compassion, because 
that is our nature.  Not a plant's nature!  Practice is the best wakefulness 
medicine.  There is no other wakefulness medicine.

Not even Chris's caffeine.

--Joe

> uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Joe, I know it sounds crazy to those who haven't tried or experienced it, but 
> I think there is also a nature consciousness that entheogens allow us to 
> enter.


 

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