Mike, The man (father) should have equal right to choose whether or not the woman carrying his child has an abortion or not SO LONG AS he bears the legal burden to support the child. If the state thinks it's purely the woman's right then the state must bear the legal responsibility to support the child with the mother and the father should bear NO such responsibility.
This is justice because it's what is obviously fair... Edgar On Jun 24, 2013, at 11:17 PM, [email protected] wrote: > Merle, > > I became a vegetarian 20 years ago. If you care to go back into the archives > on this forum you'll see how I argued against the eating of meat. Since then > I've mellowed from those views in so far as its up to the individual to > choose. Killing an animal is different from eating what is offered to you > *although* by choosing to eat it you indirectly cause another to do the > killing and this is something that has to be considered. I've since recently > reintroduced meat into my diet, but plan on returning to a vegetarian diet > soon. On all vipassana retreats the food served is vegetarian and > vegetarianism is encouraged, but not enforced. > > So, I take it you give thanks for every bite of meat that you partake. Yes? > Know any other animal that does that? Since you tried to make a point, what's > your take on a woman's right to choose regarding abortion? > > Mike > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; > Subject: [Zen] i'd rather be a tiger burger > Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 12:45:42 AM > > > > > mike.. > you just don't get it..so you do all the knocking.... > have you had your lunch yet?.. > did you give eternal thanks to the animal you devoured so you could have the > energy to type this message to the zen forum...? > merle > > Edgar, Merle, > > You two should really knock your heads together! Edgar, you've just cited a > story proving my point and Merle chimes in with"Beautiful!". Like the Abbott > and Costello of the Zen forum.. > > Mike > > > Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; > Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? > Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 12:27:03 AM > > > beautiful edgar.... beautiful...!!!!!!!!... the point that joe cannot get > his head around is...tiger eat lunch...murderers kill for killing's > sake..though some have known to make it their lunch as well... being a burger > for a tiger is a good plan...merle > > Joe, > > Apparently you're ignorant of the story of the Buddhist monk who gave his > body to the hungry mother tiger to feed her starving cubs? > > Edgar > > > > On Jun 24, 2013, at 7:54 PM, Joe wrote: > >> >> Merle, >> >> Once you're dead, it's only the aftermath of the death that could possibly >> matter. >> >> If a Tiger eats you, no one gets to use your organs. Your organs could save >> and improve the lives of 5 or 6 people. Tiger only gets one meal out of you. >> Two days later, she'll need another meal. That's not great use of Human >> tissue. But organ donation has that beat by miles. >> >> See you're just now speaking about "the fact", the fact in your present >> case. But that's too miniscule a conversation, and should not concern us >> here. Speaking in general, it's better to be shot dead than to be eaten by a >> Tiger. >> >> I know you agree, now that you've refreshed your view of what we're actually >> talking about. >> >> No one wants the cataract-y corneas of most of us "Seniors". Except Tigers. >> >> Stay clear of Tigers, and gun-totin' killers, just the same. Long life! >> >> --Joe >> >> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: >> > >> > that's not the point joe... >> > a tiger is doing what a tiger does..having lunch.. >> > a murderer is going against the grain of.."thou shalt not kill"...what's >> > organ donation got to do with this?... >> > if your over 70 no one wants your worn out organs here in australia.. only >> > the corneas... >> > > > > > > >
