Probably only the deluded ones you grew up with. I knew plenty of that kind 
myself when I was growing up. They were the ones who killed all the foxes and 
wired there bodies to the fences alongside the roads back in rural Missouri.

Edgar



On Jun 25, 2013, at 9:33 AM, [email protected] wrote:

> Edgar,
> 
> You're one person. How many farmers would disagree with you?
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
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> 
> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
> To: <[email protected]>; 
> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 1:16:52 PM 
> 
>  
> Mike,
> 
> 
> Boy are you being dense today. I do deal with foxes on a daily basis. I have 
> a whole family of them living in my front yard. Do you?
> 
> Edgar
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jun 25, 2013, at 8:53 AM, [email protected] wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Edgar,
>> 
>> Your word against the people who deal with foxes on a daily basis. Even if 
>> you're right, I'm hardly out on a limb repeating what farmers say.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>> 
>> From: Edgar Owen <[email protected]>; 
>> To: <[email protected]>; 
>> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
>> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 11:31:19 AM 
>> 
>>  
>> Mike,
>> 
>> 
>> These are moronic farmer's delusions you've been programmed to believe. 
>> Foxes don't kill lambs by biting their tongues out. That wouldn't kill a 
>> lamb anyway. We raised chickens when I was a kid and the foxes would take 
>> one chicken and make off with it.
>> 
>> Only if a fox go into an enclosed coop where the chickens were trapped would 
>> it likely kill the chickens inside. But that is a reasonable intelligent 
>> action because foxes store excess food and come back for it later when 
>> needed. It is not an unreasonable act of cruelty as you imply.
>> 
>> Humans are BY FAR the cruelest species, especially those who tend to trash 
>> animals and spread false ignorant rumors about them....
>> 
>> Edgar
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 25, 2013, at 4:39 AM, [email protected] wrote:
>> 
>>>  
>>> Merle,
>>> 
>>> Farmers hate foxes for killing lambs by biting their tongues out. They'll 
>>> also kill all the chickens in a hatch even though they won't eat them all. 
>>> But no ones denying humans can, and do, terrible things. It's the shadow 
>>> side of the good we do have.
>>> 
>>> Mike
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad
>>> 
>>> From: Merle Lester <[email protected]>; 
>>> To: [email protected] <[email protected]>; 
>>> Subject: Re: [Zen] rise above to where? 
>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 25, 2013 7:39:18 AM 
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  joe..humans practise torture..name me an animal that takes delight in 
>>> this...merle
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Merle,
>>> 
>>> Baloney. I'm not buying it.
>>> 
>>> You asked "how many Humans can be this devoted?"
>>> 
>>> You made it a comparison contest.
>>> 
>>> Humans win. Just so you know!
>>> 
>>> And we share our care with animals. Especially with domesticated ones. Who 
>>> won't eat us, or maul us too badly.
>>> 
>>> --Joe
>>> 
>>> > Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > joe this was not a contest...an explanation on animal behaviour... merle
>>> > Â  
>>> > Merle,
>>> > 
>>> > quoting:
>>> > "how many humans can be this devoted?"
>>> > 
>>> > I'm working on the exact figure; STAND by, please.
>>> > 
>>> > OK: *this* just in: The answer is: "MORE than ONE".
>>> > 
>>> > Thus, the unique Dog is outnumbered by Humans. Humans win!
>>> > 
>>> > The point is hereby resolved.
>>> > 
>>> > All Hail,
>>> > 
>>> > --Joe
>>> > 
>>> > PS (...taking nothing away from the late "Hachiko", nor his or her statue)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 

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