<*>[Attachment(s) from SURESH JAGADEESAN included below] Dear Joe,
Please comment on my below mail to other forum member. Brgds Suresh Dear Sir, “If it is an error or judgment, then why does an educated / learned alert human being who is also alert makes an error?” The learned / educated alert human being is not fully alert like Buddha or Ramana or JK, in other words he is not an enlightened human being. He is still operating from the conditioned mind. The responses of that educated/learned person, is from his education and learning and not from his inner being or ‘self’. Hence error is possible by educated / learned alert human being. His alertness is not permanent; the diffused light is trying to penetrate that wall of learning or conditioning. And sometimes it succeed and some time it fails to penetrate. “you have a choice only on performing an action. On result you have no choice” This is what zen also states. There is a Thirulkural, stating “before taking action think well, once you have taken action, thereafter thinking is of no use” ENNI THUNIGA KARUMAM, THUNITHANPIN ENNUVAM ENBADHU ELUKU” So think before just like while playing chess, the player thinks in multiple moves of opponent if he makes that one move, and then he makes that move. Ask Viswanath Anand, how he was World champion for many times. So if we take that effort of well thinking and planning, then our action will be more or less flawless. Read Six sigma theory how to achieve 99.999% desired result. If we use six sigma theories on rehabilitation and construction then Uttarakhand disaster will not repeat. Do you want to bet? On this. Learn from Japanese how they are successful and well developed country from the 2nd world war of ruin in 1945. We got freedom in 1947, just two years behind, where is India and where is Japan in term of economy. What is the average income of Japanese and what is the average income of Indian? How do Japanese cities looks like and how does Indian cities look like? “And Hinduism goes deeper into this. What you call luck, nothing but some result appearing after a long long time. That is also termed Adrushta. “ There is no luck in six sigma theory. Don’t think like common man, think like an educated man who is interested in safety and quality. “ I doubt if there is anything like Law of Karma and Dharma - stated any where else in the world and it is absolutely universal.. That is the beauty of this.” Keep doubting, what is said is not important how people live or lead their life here is important. Why your mind is not thinking a country which wrote Law of Karma and Dharma is biggest in corruption, biggest in poverty, biggest in population, biggest in less nutrition children, biggest racket of rapes, and sexual abuse. Why have you questioned? It is because of our religion. For every papa there is a pariharam. Hence temple business is vast growing and ever growing. You can rape and do pariharam, that is it. If I go to Nadi Jythish, the he will say I have done papa in last genma, now do this pariharm, all your troubles will be over. This is what called corruption. Even temples darshan, you have ticket system, you pay higher praise, you will see god first. You do this to god, god will give you this. This is corruption. People want short cuts, no hard work is required, all you have to do is one homam, one yaga or go to temple all will be solved or received. This kind of arrangement is created by a corrupt mind It is not beautiful, it is so ugly. Sir, before you write please read six sigma system. Learn how quality system works. As I mentioned my earlier post that after Titanic ship sang, if no rules have come, today these kind of disaster would have continued. Last week one vessel MOL Comfort a container vessel with carrying capacity of 8000 containers broke into two off Yemen coast, but no one has died, all are rescued. How?, since they had lifeboats. In Titanic there were not adequate lifeboats to save all lives. My colleague said, India’s biggest threat is population. If that is the problem, why these politicians have not taken any serious steps to curb this? If government has some safety standards for administrating the country, then all these things will be thought of, even unthinkable thought of, even impossible will be thought of and then a plan will be formed and seen its proper execution. I will attach six sigma few articles and on MOL Comfort. Best regards Suresh On 7/1/13, ram mohan anantha pai <[email protected]> wrote: > Namaskaram, > > I want to touch up on only one point here. > > Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 5:45 PM, SURESH JAGADEESAN <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> >> *SJ writes * > >> *Now today again I have posted zen view of Karma, which means just >> action. You have free will to carry out the actions. If you are fully >> alert in carrying out the actions, then it will bring good result. If >> you are not alert, you act as per your conditioned mind, then that >> will bring bad result. * > > > One can be alert to any extent. But even when one is alert, a human being > can always make an error in judgement. And that error in judgement is > known > only after the result appears. > > take for example the case of Ram Mohan. > > You are an alert person. You communicated with Ram MOhan and many others > thru this forum and thru private mails too. > > Still only recently you got angry and upset etc with him. Do you mean to > say > you were not alert all these days? or was it an error or judgement? > > If it is an error or judgement, then why does an educated / learned > alert human being who is also alert makes an error ? > > Where as Hinduism says that > > you have a choice only on performing an action. On result > you have no choice. it is like your Kaun Banega Karodpathi. > You have an option to lock any answer. But once the answer > is locked, you have no choice but to accept the result. So is our > free will to do / not to do / do it differently. > > There is a small story on this. > > One person after finishing his days job was to return from his office. > > He cleared his table, came out of the office and started to walk towards > bus stand. > > desired result : he reaches bus stop and gets in to the bus and reaches > home. > > less than desired result : he reaches the bus stop, he sees people getting > into > the bus and when his turn comes, conductor stops you and says 'next bus' > and leaves > > more than desired result : while crossing the road, suddently a friend of > yours > coming that way, spots you and gives you a lift to home. > > unexpected result : while crossing the stree to walk towards the bus stop, > you slip > and fall and some two wheeler runs over your leg only to realize all this > when you > get back your consciousness in a hospital. > > And Hinduism goes deeper into this. What you call luck, nothing but some > result > appearing after a long long time. That is also termed Adrushta. > > Hinduism explains every bit of these very well, sensibly. But, one need to > spend > some time to understand all these and it needs efforts - not belief. > > I doubt if there is anything like Law of Karma and Dharma - stated any > where else > in the world and it is absolutely universal.. That is the beauty of this. > > namaskaram > -- Thanks and best regards J.Suresh New No.3, Old No.7, Chamiers road - 1st Lane, Alwarpet, Chennai - 600018 Ph: 044 42030947 Mobile: 91 9884071738 -- Thanks and best regards J.Suresh New No.3, Old No.7, Chamiers road - 1st Lane, Alwarpet, Chennai - 600018 Ph: 044 42030947 Mobile: 91 9884071738 <*>Attachment(s) from SURESH JAGADEESAN: <*> 2 of 2 File(s) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/attachments/folder/578554274/item/list <*> Lean-Six-Sigma-Ops-Excellence.pdf <*> MOL Comfort Suffers Broken Back.docx ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! 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