PBS, Then by all means, Just EAT!
...Bill! --- In [email protected], <pandabananasock@...> wrote: > > Neither should the "reality" it represents be mistaken for experience. > > Fuck zen, I'm hungry! > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > On Wed, 7/3/13, Bill! <BillSmart@...> wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of Cause-and-Effect and Karma > To: [email protected] > Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 8:10 PM > > PBS, > > Math, logic, reason like all delusions should come with the > caveat 'suitable for everyday use'. As a universal > human language to communicate our logical concepts it's very > useful, but it should never be mistaken for reality. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], > <pandabananasock@> wrote: > > > > Bill!: > > You're gonna ignore the math? I thought you said > you were looking for an impersonal language a couple posts > ago... :D > > > > The thing about using math that way is that eventually > it leads you back to the beginning. We use mathematics > as an expression of the model, then we use the model as an > expression of the math. Then we realize that both are > models of each other and the same, and experience > encompasses all -- no need for anything else. Rivers > and mountains become rivers and mountains again! > > ~PeeBeeEss > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 7/3/13, Bill! <BillSmart@> wrote: > > > > Subject: Re: [Zen] Say Bye-Bye to the Delusion of > Cause-and-Effect and Karma > > To: [email protected] > > Date: Wednesday, July 3, 2013, 8:56 AM > > > > PBS (That's going to be my TLA (Three > > Letter Acronym) for Pandabananasock from now > on)... > > > > I'll ignore all the math but do agree that JUST > IF there is > > such a think that could be called 'karma' it's > not so much a > > moralistic cause-and-effect as it is an intrinsic > quality of > > the act itself. > > > > But, I'll continue to poo-poo all claims of > karma. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], > > pandabananasock@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Most people think of "1+1=2" as procedural, > that is, > > that there is 1, THEN we add 1 to it, THEN it > becomes > > 2. They would regard "2=1+1" and "2=2" to be > different > > equations, but they are not in the least bit > > different. The equal-sign is the present. > > > "1+1" is already 2! And the effect IS the > > cause. Your karmic punishment for doing > something > > "bad" is you doing that "bad" thing. Your > karmic > > reward for doing something "good" is you doing > that "good" > > thing. Forget the come-back-to-bite-you BS! > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 4:58 AM EDT Bill! > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >...Bill! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you > recently have > > read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! > Groups > > Links > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have > read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups > Links > > > [email protected] > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
