Merle, I don't really disagree with much of what you say, but many times I don't see the connection with zen.
For example the idea that "we need a consensus so we can function as a society" has nothing to do with zen practice. It certainly might be a goal in a religion like Buddhism, but not zen. ...Bill! --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > >  >  i must agree with edgar here.. > i was only thinking this ...this very morning... > we all  perceive things differently... > the reality is out there as reality surely bill... >  we need a consensus so we can function as a society ... > merle > > >  > Bill, > > Yes, you experience what you experience whatever. But it isn't reality > because it's different between observers... > > There is an actual external reality that each observer experiences it > differently... > > But why O why am I wasting my time trying to teach you the obvious, a > teaching that every Zen master from Buddha onward agrees with me on? > > Edgar > > > > > On Jul 14, 2013, at 8:14 PM, Bill! wrote: > >  > >Merle, > > > >If you are color-blind or totally blind it makes no difference. You > >experience what you experience. That which you experience is real. That > >which you perceive (think about, intellectualize) is not. > > > >We do interpret our experiences with our mind. That's called perceiving. > >And just as you say we interpret them to make sense out of them, but it's > >WE, our human intellect, that 'makes the sense'. It's not as many believe > >that our intellect 'discovers' the sense which is inherent in experience. > >We create it and we superimpose it, force-fit it, onto our experience. > > > >And yes, you're correct again that we perceive (apply our intellect)in order > >to survive. That doesn't make our perceptions real, it only makes them > >useful. > > > >Our intellect does not make things real. Our intellect takes our experience > >of reality and forces it into a little logical box so we can understand it. > >Our intellect distorts reality. That's called perception and is a delusion > >(or illusion). > > > >I'm not sure what you mean by 'and then there is a consensus' so I cannot > >comment on that. > > > >...Bill! > > > >--- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> àso if one was colour blind...how would that fit into the scheme of > >> things? > >> ..it would not be the correct interpretation of the world..for instance > >> traffic lights..à> >> > >> i do not believe one can totally trust our senses as being the only real > >> experience...what ever you mean by real...we see àwe hear we touch we > >> smell we taste...à> >> àone interpret this with our mind... > >> otherwise this world would make no sense what so ever...à> >> àone must in order to survive make meaning out of what we see, hear, > >> touch, smell and taste... > >> what other experiences are there apart from the sensory?...à> >> i'd say they are the starting point not the all end to understanding the > >> world... > >> we need our minds to make sense of the world surely?...and hence an > >> intellect... > >> àthen it becomes real real real... and one is able to communicate that > >> reality to others > >> àand then there is a consensus > >> > >> merle > >> > >> à> >> Merle, > >> > >> IMO only experience is real, and by that 'experience' I mean sensory > >> experience (sight, sound, touch, smell, taste). > >> > >> That's it. That's all. > >> > >> ...Bill! > >> > >> --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Ãâàbill..thank you for your clarification...so what is NOT an > >> > illusion bill?...and what is real in your world?...merle > >> > > >> > > >> > Ãâà> >> > Merle, > >> > > >> > Sure...as long as you tie it back to zen it's fair game as far as I'm > >> > concerned. What this article is talking about is what Buddhism calls > >> > 'suffering'. > >> > > >> > Western medicine tries to alleviate it by prescribing medications. > >> > > >> > Most religions try to alleviate it by prescribing faith in God. > >> > > >> > Art, music, work, activities of all sorts, etc.. help alleviate it by > >> > having you concentrate on something else. > >> > > >> > Zen IMO tries to alleviate it by helping you experience these are > >> > delusive. > >> > > >> > ...Bill! > >> > > >> > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@> wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâài thought this was a good article as to what bill > >> > > talks about..illusions... hence zen appropriate..correct me if i am > >> > > incorrect...bill... > >> > > merle > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >Worried Sick > >> > > >Expectations can make you ill. Fear can make you fragile. > >> > > >Understanding the nocebo effect may help prevent this painful > >> > > >phenomenon. > >> > > >ByÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàMegan ScudellariÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> > > >|ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàJuly 1, 2013 > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâé BRYAN SATALINO > >> > > >Something strange was happening in New Zealand. In the fall of 2007, > >> > > >pharmacies across the country had begun dispensing a new formulation > >> > > >of EltroxinÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"the only thyroid hormone > >> > > >replacement drug approved and paid for by the government and used by > >> > > >tens of thousands of New Zealanders since 1973. Within months, > >> > > >reports of side effects began trickling in to the > >> > > >governmentÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s health-care > >> > > >monitoring agency. These included known side effects of the drug, > >> > > >such as lethargy, joint pain, and depression, as well as symptoms not > >> > > >normally associated with the drug or disease, including eye pain, > >> > > >itching, and nausea. Then, the following summer, the floodgates > >> > > >opened: in the 18 months following the release of the new tablets, > >> > > >the rate of Eltroxin adverse event reporting rose nearly 2,000-fold.1 > >> > > >The strange thing was, the active ingredient in the drug, thyroxine, > >> > > >was exactly the same. Laboratory testing proved that the new > >> > > >formulation was bioequivalent to the old one. The only change was > >> > > >that the drugmaker, GlaxoSmithKline, had moved its manufacturing > >> > > >process from Canada to Germany, and in the process altered the > >> > > >drugÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s inert qualities, > >> > > >including the tabletsÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ size, > >> > > >color, and markings. > >> > > >So why were people getting sick? In June, it turned out, newspapers > >> > > >and TV stations around the country had begun to directly attribute > >> > > >the reported adverse effects to the changes in the drug. Following > >> > > >widespread coverage of the issue, more and more patients reported > >> > > >adverse events to the government. And the areas of the country with > >> > > >the most intense media coverage had the highest rates of reported ill > >> > > >effects, suggesting that perhaps a little social persuasion was at > >> > > >play. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"NoceboÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ (meaning > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"I shall harmÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬) is > >> > > >the dastardly sibling of placebo (ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"I > >> > > >shall pleaseÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬). > >> > > >But Eltroxin takers were not making up their symptoms. The feelings > >> > > >were real, but in the vast majority of cases they could not be > >> > > >attributed to the drugÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > >> > > >pharmacological properties. The patients were victims of the nocebo > >> > > >effect. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"NoceboÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ (meaning > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"I shall harmÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬) is > >> > > >the dastardly sibling of placebo (ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"I > >> > > >shall pleaseÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬). In a placebo response, a sham > >> > > >medication or procedure has a beneficial health effect as a result of > >> > > >a patientÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s expectation. Sugar > >> > > >pills, for example, can powerfully improve depression when the > >> > > >patient believes them to be antidepressants. But, researchers are > >> > > >learning, the reverse phenomenon is also common: negative > >> > > >expectations can actually cause harm. > >> > > >When ParkinsonÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s patients > >> > > >undergoing deep brain stimulation were told that their brain > >> > > >pacemaker was going to be turned off, symptoms of their illness > >> > > >became more pronounced, even when the pacemaker was left > >> > > >on.2ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàWhen people with and without lactose > >> > > >intolerance were asked to ingest lactose, but were actually given > >> > > >glucose, 44 percent of those with lactose intolerance and 26 percent > >> > > >of those without it still complained of stomach > >> > > >pain.3ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàAnd men treated for an enlarged prostate > >> > > >with a commonly prescribed drug and told that the drug > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"may cause erectile dysfunction, > >> > > >decreased libido, [and] problems of > >> > > >ejaculation,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ but that these effects were > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"uncommon,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ were > >> > > >more than twice as likely to experience impotence as those who were > >> > > >not so informed.4 > >> > > >On paper, it sounds like psychobabbleÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"a > >> > > >negative effect caused by a sham treatment based on a > >> > > >patientÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > >> > > >expectationsÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"but it is a real biochemical and > >> > > >physiological process, involving pain and stress pathways in the > >> > > >brain. And mounting evidence suggests that the nocebo effect is > >> > > >having a substantial negative impact on clinical research, medicine, > >> > > >and health. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"Nocebo is at least as important as the > >> > > >placebo effect and may be more widespread,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >says Ted Kaptchuk, director of > >> > > >HarvardÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s Program in Placebo > >> > > >Studies at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston, > >> > > >Massachusetts. > >> > > >Now that this pernicious phenomenon is starting to receive the > >> > > >recognition it deserves, the question is: What exactly can be done > >> > > >about it? > >> > > >Evil effects > >> > > >ALLERGIC TO NOCEBO > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâé BRYAN SATALINO > >> > > >According to several recent studies, pain and itch appear to be > >> > > >especially susceptible to verbal suggestion. Recently, researchers in > >> > > >the Netherlands demonstrated that people who are told that a stimulus > >> > > >will cause itch feel the itch more intensely than those told that the > >> > > >stimulus is unlikely to cause itch. The finding could have > >> > > >implications for chronic itch conditions, says first author > >> > > >Antoinette van Laarhoven of Radboud University Nijmegen Medical > >> > > >Center. ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"More knowledge about nocebo > >> > > >effects on itch can give us some targets to reduce [those > >> > > >effects].ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >Also last year, in a curious study of nocebo and rectal pain, a team > >> > > >at University Hospital Essen in Germany managed to recruit healthy > >> > > >volunteers to undergo multiple rectal balloon distensions, a > >> > > >procedure in which a balloon is inserted into the rectum and slowly > >> > > >inflatedÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"in this case, until the moment it > >> > > >becomes painful. The procedures were exactly the same in control and > >> > > >nocebo groups, but there was a 20 percent increase in pain ratings > >> > > >among patients who had been told that doctors had observed an > >> > > >increase in pain sensitivity in response to repeated distensions. > >> > > >Those individuals who experienced more pain also had elevated levels > >> > > >of cortisol, again linking nocebo to anxiety. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"We could show that a nocebo effect may > >> > > >be induced even by mere information,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Sven > >> > > >Benson, an author on the paper. > >> > > >Another area of health that researchers suspect may be affected by > >> > > >nocebo is the increased incidence of asthma and allergies. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"ItÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > >> > > > certainly possible,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Manfred Schedlowski, > >> > > >who studies placebo and the immune system at University Hospital > >> > > >Essen. ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"From experimental data, we know > >> > > >an allergic reaction can be conditioned.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >In an oft-cited case from 1886, John Mackenzie, a surgeon in > >> > > >Baltimore, described how heÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢d > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"obtained an artificial rose of such > >> > > >exquisite workmanship that it presented a perfect counterfeit of the > >> > > >original,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ then exposed a woman with severe > >> > > >rose allergy to the fake flower. The woman, not knowing it was fake, > >> > > >had a full-blown allergic reaction, including a running nose, swollen > >> > > >nostrils, and a tight chest.12 Similarly, people allergic to dogs may > >> > > >begin sneezing when they simply see a dog across the way. Researchers > >> > > >have even shown that guinea pigs can be conditioned to release > >> > > >histamine, causing a local immune response, when presented with just > >> > > >an odor stimulus. > >> > > >But the link between nocebo and allergy is far from concrete. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"WeÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re > >> > > > in such a primitive state of understanding this phenomenon, > >> > > >particularly in a clinically oriented way, that we just need to do > >> > > >more research,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says bioethicist Frank Miller > >> > > >of the National Institutes of Health. > >> > > >In 1997, Fabrizio Benedetti, a neurophysiologist at the University of > >> > > >Turin Medical School in Italy, was busy mapping the biochemical > >> > > >pathways involved in placebo responses when he performed a simple > >> > > >study that revealed a distinct neural mechanism driving the > >> > > >bodyÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s nocebo response. He gave > >> > > >consenting postoperative patients reporting mild pain an injection > >> > > >that they were told would increase their pain within 30 minutes. The > >> > > >injection was either saline solution or proglumide, which blocks a > >> > > >hormone implicated in pain hypersensitivity and associated with > >> > > >anxiety. Neither substance actually causes any discomfort. > >> > > >When saline was injected, patients experienced increased pain. When > >> > > >proglumide was injected, they had no pain > >> > > >increaseÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"the nocebo effect was > >> > > >absent.5ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàIn one fell swoop, Benedetti identified a > >> > > >biochemical reaction responsible for the nocebo response, and he > >> > > >showed that it could be blocked. > >> > > >It was BenedettiÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s work that > >> > > >finally convinced physician-bioethicist Howard Brody that the nocebo > >> > > >effectÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"allegedly first mentioned in the > >> > > >scientific literature in 1961 by physician Walter Kennedy, who called > >> > > >the phenomenon a ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"quality inherent in the > >> > > >patient rather than in the > >> > > >remedyÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"was real. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"For many years, I dismissed the value of > >> > > >the term ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ã > >> > > >"nocebo,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾ÃÂ¢ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬ÃÂ°ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > > says Brody, chair of family medicine and director of the Institute > >> > > >for the Medical Humanities at the University of Texas Medical Branch > >> > > >in Galveston, who first began studying the placebo effect in the > >> > > >1970s. He and others had long assumed that nocebo and placebo were > >> > > >two sides of one coin, that the same process in the brain supported > >> > > >both illusory effectsÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"one was just manifested > >> > > >as a positive outcome, while the other caused harm. But after reading > >> > > >BenedettiÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s work, Brody changed > >> > > >his tune: ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"I received my > >> > > >comeuppance,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ he laughs. > >> > > >With that first biochemical evidence, others also began recognizing > >> > > >the importance of nocebo, and a few inquiring minds began to study > >> > > >it. Nevertheless, compared to placebo, the nocebo effect remains > >> > > >vastly understudied: a PubMed database search will turn up more than > >> > > >163,000 publications on > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"placeboÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ and fewer > >> > > >than 200 on > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"nocebo.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ Of those, > >> > > >only a few dozen are empirical studies; most are reviews. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"The placebo phenomenon has a tremendous > >> > > >fascination for the publicÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"a gee-whiz thing > >> > > >with a positive spin, a way to be healthy without taking > >> > > >drugs,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Frank Miller, a bioethicist at the > >> > > >National Institutes of Health. ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"But > >> > > >nobody is very enthusiastic about the nocebo > >> > > >phenomenon.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >In addition, the nocebo effect has become notoriously difficult to > >> > > >study. Few institutional review boards will allow scientists to > >> > > >induce pain in their subjects, and some even refuse to let > >> > > >researchers mislead their volunteers. ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"My > >> > > >ethics committee will not allow me to do it,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >says Paul Enck, a psychologist at the University of > >> > > >TÃÆ'Ã'Ãâübingen in Germany, > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"unless I tell the subjects that I am > >> > > >deceiving themÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡ÃÂ¬ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"a > >> > > >requirement that obviously defeats the purpose of the deception. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"It makes life really miserable as a > >> > > >[nocebo] researcher,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Enck. > >> > > >The tragedy of this lack of investigation, researchers assert, is > >> > > >that controlled trials about the nocebo effect are needed to further > >> > > >understand and prevent noceboÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > >> > > >insidious effects on medicine and research. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"In clinical drug trials, the placebo > >> > > >effectÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"and now we know the nocebo > >> > > >effectÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"can be really, really > >> > > >large,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Manfred Schedlowski, a clinical > >> > > >researcher at the University Hospital Essen in Germany. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"This hinders the development of new > >> > > >drugs.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >In December 2012, for example, a meta-analysis revealed the > >> > > >shockingly large impact of the nocebo effect in clinical trials: in > >> > > >18 fibromyalgia drug studies, 11 percent of 3,546 patients in the > >> > > >placebo armÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"meaning they were receiving a > >> > > >completely inert substanceÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"dropped out of the > >> > > >study because of side effects including dizziness and > >> > > >nausea.6ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàOther studies have calculated that nocebo > >> > > >effects cause between 4 and 26 percent of patients taking placebo to > >> > > >leave a clinical trial because of side effects from an inert > >> > > >treatment. > >> > > >The nocebo effect may also have a worrisome effect on vaccine use. In > >> > > >2011, researchers at the French vaccine manufacturer Sanofi Pasteur > >> > > >analyzed 33,275 vaccine side-effect reports and found that doctors > >> > > >and patients preferentially report disease-specific side effects, > >> > > >such as measles-like rash following measles immunization, even when > >> > > >the vaccine contains only proteins, sugars, or killed organisms that > >> > > >wonÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t cause symptoms of the > >> > > >disease. The nocebo effect has ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"great > >> > > >potentialÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ to exacerbate rumors and fears, and > >> > > >to cause a vaccine crisis similar to the Eltroxin events in New > >> > > >Zealand, the authors write.7 > >> > > >But the most common place where the nocebo effect makes an appearance > >> > > >is in everyday visits to clinics and hospitals. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"In places like primary care, people are > >> > > >swimming in placebo and nocebo effects,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says > >> > > >Kaptchuk. > >> > > >Thomas DÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢Amico, chief of > >> > > >thoracic surgery at Duke University Medical Center in Durham, North > >> > > >Carolina, says that even before he heard the term nocebo effect, he > >> > > >was aware of it in the clinic. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"IÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve > >> > > > listened to some well-respected colleagues give information [to a > >> > > >patient], and I thought, ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¹Ã "Gosh, I know > >> > > >the operation and even I > >> > > >wouldnÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t want > >> > > >it,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾ÃÂ¢ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ he > >> > > >says. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"ThereÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > >> > > > too much detail and too much emphasis about things that could go > >> > > >wrong.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ Measuring the effect of such detail on > >> > > >an individual patient is hard to quantify, he says, but fear and > >> > > >distress before an operation has been associated with slow > >> > > >postoperative recovery and delayed wound > healing. > >> > > >Nuts and bolts > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâé BRYAN SATALINODespite the disproportionate > >> > > >amount of effort put into placebo research, since > >> > > >BenedettiÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s 1997 discovery > >> > > >thereÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s been an uptick in the > >> > > >funding and time devoted to investigating the mechanisms behind > >> > > >nocebo, with impressive results. ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"Without > >> > > >a doubt, thereÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s been a level of > >> > > >research and a sophistication of research that has made a quantum > >> > > >jump in the last decade or so,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Brody. > >> > > >In 2007, for example, Benedetti discovered that the > >> > > >hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal axis in the brain, an important part > >> > > >of the bodyÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"stress system,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ is > >> > > >activated during a nocebo response, as detected by an increase in the > >> > > >secretion of the hormones ACTH, from the pituitary gland, and > >> > > >cortisol, from the adrenal gland, both markers of anxiety.8 > >> > > >Then, in 2008, Kaptchuk and colleagues at Harvard performed the first > >> > > >brain-imaging study of the nocebo effect. After conditioning healthy > >> > > >volunteers to expect pain on their right forearm, they watched as the > >> > > >hippocampus lit up when people experienced pain from a sham > >> > > >acupuncture device. > >> > > >Through BenedettiÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s and > >> > > >KaptchukÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s work, it is now clear > >> > > >that a personÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢s expectation of > >> > > >pain can induce anticipatory anxiety, triggering the activation of > >> > > >cholecystokinin, the hormone that Benedetti blocked with proglumide. > >> > > >Cholecystokinin-mediated pathways in turn facilitate pain > >> > > >transmission, which occurs in specific areas of the brain. The > >> > > >finding does not coincide with what is know about the biochemistry of > >> > > >the placebo effectÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"which seems to be at least > >> > > >partly regulated by opioid releaseÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"suggesting > >> > > >the two phenomena have distinct mechanisms. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"Even if placebo and nocebo are on a > >> > > >continuum of expectation, different mechanisms kick in at different > >> > > >points along that continuum,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Tor Wager, > >> > > >director of the Cognitive and Affective Control Laboratory at the > >> > > >University of Colorado, Boulder, who studies the brain pathways > >> > > >underlying pain. > >> > > >Last year, Kaptchuk and colleagues added a surprising twist when they > >> > > >discovered nocebo can occur without conscious awareness. His team > >> > > >applied either high or low heat pain to the arms of 20 volunteers > >> > > >while showing them an image of one of two faces. The researchers then > >> > > >showed the volunteers the faces again, but with identical, moderate > >> > > >heat applied to their arms each time and the faces displayed at a > >> > > >much faster pace, preventing conscious recognition. When exposed to > >> > > >the faces associated with high pain levels, even without conscious > >> > > >awareness, the volunteers felt more pain.9ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡Ãâà> >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"It was a really risky > >> > > >experiment,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Kaptchuk. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"We were really surprised. We > >> > > >couldnÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t believe it, > >> > > >actually.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ > >> > > >The biochemical and physiological discoveries about nocebo have made > >> > > >the phenomenon more credible in the medical community. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"These brain measures provide objective > >> > > >evidence on the physical system implementing these squishy, fuzzy > >> > > >changes in emotion and expectation,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Wager. > >> > > >Most nocebo research to date, however, focuses on basic mechanisms, > >> > > >not on how to deal with the phenomenon in the clinic. > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"Translational research has been a > >> > > >stepchild in scientific investigations of this > >> > > >phenomenon,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Miller. Understanding the > >> > > >mechanism is important, but at the end of the day, he says, the > >> > > >medical community needs a solution to the problem. > >> > > >Controlling for nocebo > >> > > >In 1987, a team of doctors in Ontario, Canada, suspected that medical > >> > > >consent forms might actually cause harm. Using the chance occurrence > >> > > >of two different consent forms being used for the same drug trial, > >> > > >they compared patient reactions to the wording of the forms. The > >> > > >trial pitted aspirin against sulfinpyrazone, a medicine already > >> > > >approved to treat gout, as a treatment for chest pain. Patients at > >> > > >two of the three centers hosting the trial were informed that > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"side effects are not anticipated beyond > >> > > >occasional gastrointestinal irritation and, rarely, skin > >> > > >rash.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ At the third center, > >> > > >patientsÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ consent forms did not > >> > > >mention gastrointestinal effects. Seventy-six patients out of 399 (19 > >> > > >percent) given the first consent form that mentioned GI irritation > >> > > >withdrew from the study, citing GI issues, compared to just 5 out of > >> > > >156 (3 percent) who received the second > form.10 > >> > > >With the nocebo effect, doctors are caught between a rock and a hard > >> > > >place: their medical duty to primum non nocere, > >> > > >ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"First, do no > >> > > >harm,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ and the ethical and regulatory > >> > > >obligation of informed consent. What do you do when informed consent > >> > > >leads to harm? > >> > > >Last year, Kaptchuk and colleague Rebecca Wells, also at Harvard > >> > > >Medical School, sparked a debate on this topic in the pages of > >> > > >theÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàAmerican Journal of Bioethics. They proposed a > >> > > >middle ground called contextualized informed consent. Doctors, they > >> > > >suggested, might choose not to tell patients every last side effect > >> > > >of a treatment in great detail, but instead provide information to a > >> > > >patient tailored to his or her level of anxiety, such as leaving out > >> > > >nonspecific side effectsÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"those that are not a > >> > > >direct result of the pharmacological action of the > >> > > >drugÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"including headache, nausea, and fatigue. > >> > > >Nocebo is at least as important as the placebo effect and may be more > >> > > >widespread.ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬"ÃÆ'ââ¬Å¡ÃâàTed Kaptchuk, > >> > > >Program in Placebo Studies, > >> > > >>Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center, Harvard University > >> > > >But the idea of not informing patients of all possible side effects > >> > > >is anathema to some ethicists. ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâ¦"I > >> > > >certainly donÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t think that we > >> > > >should be rethinking whether informed consent should be a basic norm > >> > > >in clinical practice,ÃÆ'ââââ¬Å¡Ã¬ says Miller. Such a > >> > > >practice could promote mistrust in the health-care system and defeat > >> > > >recent efforts towards increased transparency. It may not be possible > >> > > >to have valid informed consent with no chance of the nocebo > >> > > >phenomenon, Miller admits, but he proposes two alterative techniques. > >> > > >One is to frame information about treatments positively rather than > >> > > >negatively. A 1996 study from the University of Ottawa in Canada, for > >> > > >example, described the benefits and risks of a vaccine to 292 people, > >> > > >who had never been previously immunized, using tw > >> > > >> > > > > > ------------------------------------ Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! 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