Bill!, Edgar,
I can explain about the number of degrees measured in a triangle in your space
being a determinant of the geometry of the space you are in, but I can also
agree with Bill! that experience is our only life.
Inference and reasoning can project in advance some other experiences that
would be *possible*, to occur at some other time, *perhaps*; or, inference and
reasoning can effectively fictionalize experiences that we have never had. To
the extent that there is fictionalization, the content of the reasoning is
delusory. In other words, it is not our experience.
Reasoning does *not* provide experience.
Experiences we have while reading a novel, having to do with the story, are
delusions; they are not real. Shear fiction.
Conditions at the Event Horizon of a Black Hole are not our experience: they
are delusions.
The sensation of extended weightlessness as, say, of the astronauts in orbit,
is not our experience, and is delusion: we have not experienced it, and know
nothing of it. We don't own that. We can only imagine.
"Imagining" gives no *certainty* of anything outside your experience!
--Joe
> Edgar Owen <edgarowen@...> wrote:
>
> Bill,
>
> I understand what you are saying but you are wrong. For example it is
> possible to determine the shape of a space from inside that space by
> measuring what the angles of triangles add up to. You don't have to be
> outside of your experience to understand there is something else outside it.
> I don't know whether you know enough math for this to make sense to you.
> Maybe Joe or Mike can explain it...
>
> Edgar
>
> Bill! wrote:
>
> > Edgar,
> >
> > I experience what I experience. You experience what you experience. That is
> > the only reality that either of us have available to us.
> >
> > All the rest that you claim to exist is speculation, intellectualizations;
> > in other words delusions.
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