Mike,

Counting the breaths is just the initial part of the teaching technique, at 
least as it was taught to me.  The full techniques is:
1.  Counting the breath:
   1.1 - 1 on 1xhale, 2 on inhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
   1.2 - 1 on exhale, 2 on next exhale, etc..., to 10 and then repeat
2.  Following the breath:
   2.1 - No counting, just following exhale and inhale
   2.2 - No counting, just following breath, exhale only
3. Drop the following - shikantaza - Just THIS!

...Bill!



--- In [email protected], uerusuboyo@... wrote:
>
> Hal, Bill!,<br/><br/>I guess counting the breath is 'bread and butter' for 
> most people starting out (and also for seasoned meditators). I have found, 
> however, that the meditation on the breath as taught in the sutras says 
> nothing whatsoever about counting our breaths. Instead, we just focus on the 
> breath entering and leaving the nostrils. This works for me much better than 
> counting because counting can soon become a mantra taking our focus away from 
> the body. Actual bodily sensations are our doorway into reality rather than 
> concepts (such as numbers).<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail 
> for iPad
>




------------------------------------

Current Book Discussion: any Zen book that you recently have read or are 
reading! Talk about it today!Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Zen_Forum/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    [email protected] 
    [email protected]

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    [email protected]

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

Reply via email to