Bill, Bore yourself into enlightenment?
That's a new one! Edgar On Jul 30, 2013, at 4:02 AM, Bill! wrote: > Mike and M, > > Counting breaths (and chanting, bowing, koans, etc...) are just techniques > used to focus the mind on repetitive thoughts to the point where it shuts > down (usually out of boredom) which allows the experience of Buddha Nature. > > Any way you can halt the creation of dualism (intellectualizations) and enter > into samadhi (or what I call shikantaza) is fine. > > Do whatever works for you. > > ...Bill! > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, uerusuboyo@... wrote: > > > > M,<br/><br/>I began practicing Zen 10 years, or so, ago. I discovered > > Vipassana meditation about 5 years ago. I have found that Vipassana > > explains things that Zen leaves empty (pun noted). My (Zen) practice has > > deepened considerably since discovering Vipassana and one of the factors is > > focusing on bodily sensations as the doorway into reality. The sutras talk > > about this a lot and Buddha himself said that within this "fathom long" > > body will you discover the truth. No where in the sutras does it say to > > observe thoughts or count the breath. Since dropping both my meditation has > > changed considerably. For me, when my mind wanders I just come back to the > > sensation of air on the entrance of my nostrils. Very > > grounding.<br/><br/>Mike<br/><br/><br/>Sent from Yahoo! Mail for iPad > > > >