Dear KG,
Let me put my understanding on my own questions?
Realized gurus answers are based on receivers as you so mentioned
about different type of Metallurgy, and hence their answers will
contradict if we look at it as if it is addressed to all as common.
But it would have given great meaning and insight to the receivers who
have asked the question those time.
World will be unreal for god, the self, the whole, but not for
individual souls/jivas. Until one is realized as self (become god) the
world will be real, once realized it is just a maya, a play.
So Ramana statement is true as far as his godhood(self) state is concerned.
The self, the non-dual Brahman is the real god, who preserve the body
of individual soul during his sleep allowing the karma to prevail at
all times.
Isvara may be the siva form for that disciple and hence he answered
those forms of lord also vanish on dissolution, only non-dual Brahman
will remain.
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This is not science class. Ramana is not teaching you things to know.
You must go into this and see this directly. It has nothing to do with
what you think, or don't think about it.
Contradiction is a matter of limited opinions, of positions. Stop
preposing the preposterous and simply (or not) look.
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If you have ever Read Collected works of Ramana fully and thoroughly,
you might have come across these words, i.e. Ramana himself states
"science of self" in one place. All religious philosophies are pure
science only. Science and Philosophies are same, only difference is
science deals with outer things, and philosophies deals with inner,
the inner most energy behind the visible universe.
So it is certainly science class only. Are you a realized soul? then
don't preach or give hypocritical statement i.e. to say personally not
felt or experienced just pass information read from some book to show
of your wisdom you think you possess.
Many don’t like me questioning on anyone or anything, I don’t know
why? I learn by
questioning only. To question does not mean I degrade somebody.
I kept thinking about my questions again and again and that above
answer I got today morning when I was coming to office. But I waited
to see different answers.
So my conclusion is it is the perception of a person depends on his
capability (deep inner meditation).
I hope I answered and which may not hurt anyone.
Let Ramana bless us all.
Best wishes
Suresh
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