harmony and balance is the key..merle
Dictatorship>>>>> or<<<<<<< Chaos. Take your pick. On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Bill! <billsm...@hhs1963.org> wrote: > >Merle, > >I mean liberty and security in a society are usually related in an inverse >proportion. The more liberty you have the less security; and the more security >you have the less liberty. > >In other words the more laws the less liberty but the more security. The less >laws the more liberty but the less security. > >What I said below was that in my experience most people will lean heavily >towards security over liberty. > >...Bill! > >--- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: >> >> >> >> Â bill...meaning what?..clarification please..merle >> Â >> Larry, >> >> I agree most of what you posted here, but would like to add that most people >> however choose security over freedom. >> >> ...Bill! >> >> --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher <lcmaher22@> wrote: >> > >> > 1- Life is suffering. >> > 2- We suffer because we crave (want, desire, whatever) >> > >> > It doesn't matter where you live or whom you live with. We can always chose >> > freedom through 'want' reduction. I'm a victim to. No need to remind me. >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@>wrote: >> > >> > > ** >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > bill...butting in..practical for who?...the mob at the top of the food >> > > chain whilst they hold a gun to the herd? >> > > there is the term noble savage... and let us not forget these noble >> > > savages are living in the NOW...the space you so yearn to be ..merle >> > > >> > > Larry, >> > > >> > > IMO the basis of all cultural and societal values and mores are >> > > practicality. I think problems come in when the needs of the population >> > > changes but the values and mores are too rigid to adjust to meet them. >> > > >> > > I don't think any of these are 'noble', but in fact that the judgment of >> > > 'noble' is itself a cultural or societal value. >> > > >> > > ...Bill! >> > > >> > > --- In Zen_Forum@yahoogroups.com, larry maher <lcmaher22@> wrote: >> > > > >> > > > Very good video Merle. No leaders, equal men and female rights and >> > > > multi-spouse marriage, men marrying several women or women marrying >> > > several >> > > > men (probably as a means of population control). The point is: our >> > > > great >> > > > morality connected with sex and exclusivity is just no more than making >> > > > people another possession. The tribe doc I saw years back became >> > > > contaminated with modern civilization and within a matter of a few >> > > > years >> > > > the men spoke of their, bikes, radios and their wife. One old lady >> > > > interviewed near the end of the doc said, civilization was nice but she >> > > > missed the group sex the village engaged in every week or so. >> > > > Not advocating anything here, just wondering if our 'noble' values are >> > > > really 'noble' or just practical? >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@>wrote: >> > > > >> > > > > ** >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > this is a beautiful documentary about beautiful people living in >> > > harmony >> > > > > with each other and their environment... paradise lost.... where did >> > > our >> > > > > civilisation go so wrong?..... cheers merle >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > ' >> > > > > http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/ >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > *Larry Maher* >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > *Larry Maher* >> > >> > > -- Larry Maher
