Dictatorship>>>>> or<<<<<<< Chaos. Take your pick.
On Mon, Aug 26, 2013 at 3:56 AM, Bill! <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > > Merle, > > I mean liberty and security in a society are usually related in an inverse > proportion. The more liberty you have the less security; and the more > security you have the less liberty. > > In other words the more laws the less liberty but the more security. The > less laws the more liberty but the less security. > > What I said below was that in my experience most people will lean heavily > towards security over liberty. > > ...Bill! > > --- In [email protected], Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Â bill...meaning what?..clarification please..merle > > Â > > Larry, > > > > I agree most of what you posted here, but would like to add that most > people however choose security over freedom. > > > > ...Bill! > > > > --- In [email protected], larry maher <lcmaher22@> wrote: > > > > > > 1- Life is suffering. > > > 2- We suffer because we crave (want, desire, whatever) > > > > > > It doesn't matter where you live or whom you live with. We can always > chose > > > freedom through 'want' reduction. I'm a victim to. No need to remind > me. > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:43 PM, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@>wrote: > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bill...butting in..practical for who?...the mob at the top of the > food > > > > chain whilst they hold a gun to the herd? > > > > there is the term noble savage... and let us not forget these noble > > > > savages are living in the NOW...the space you so yearn to be ..merle > > > > > > > > Larry, > > > > > > > > IMO the basis of all cultural and societal values and mores are > > > > practicality. I think problems come in when the needs of the > population > > > > changes but the values and mores are too rigid to adjust to meet > them. > > > > > > > > I don't think any of these are 'noble', but in fact that the > judgment of > > > > 'noble' is itself a cultural or societal value. > > > > > > > > ...Bill! > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], larry maher <lcmaher22@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Very good video Merle. No leaders, equal men and female rights and > > > > > multi-spouse marriage, men marrying several women or women marrying > > > > several > > > > > men (probably as a means of population control). The point is: our > great > > > > > morality connected with sex and exclusivity is just no more than > making > > > > > people another possession. The tribe doc I saw years back became > > > > > contaminated with modern civilization and within a matter of a few > years > > > > > the men spoke of their, bikes, radios and their wife. One old lady > > > > > interviewed near the end of the doc said, civilization was nice > but she > > > > > missed the group sex the village engaged in every week or so. > > > > > Not advocating anything here, just wondering if our 'noble' values > are > > > > > really 'noble' or just practical? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 9:16 PM, Merle Lester <merlewiitpom@ > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > this is a beautiful documentary about beautiful people living in > > > > harmony > > > > > > with each other and their environment... paradise lost.... where > did > > > > our > > > > > > civilisation go so wrong?..... cheers merle > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ' > > > > > > http://topdocumentaryfilms.com/isolated-zoe-tribe/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > *Larry Maher* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > *Larry Maher* > > > > > > > > -- *Larry Maher*
