--- wai_dk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The contradictory utterances/teachings of the
> masters may seem very 
> different, but they in fact spring from the very
> same 
> source/experience. They appear contradictory only in
> form but not in substance.

I couldn't agree with you more. For example, if a
seeker asks the Master about the essense of reality,
the Master may reply: "Mind-only". The next seeker
approaches the same master and asks the same question,
the Master may reply: "No-mind." Seemingly totally
contradictory, but in essence, coming from the same
source.

However, I tend to disagree with you that form and
substance are in any way different. This is where I
suspect our contention may lie.

> What you have been saying is
> contradictory in both 
> substance and form, I feel.

Since I don't see how are substance and form
different, I would tend to agree with you on this one.
If you could explain to me and demonstrate how are
form and substance different, then I would be
compelled to add something to the proceeding. But as
it stands now, I think it is perfectly clear.

> > You cannot easily subsume various teachings
> expounded
> > by various Masters and come up with the `least
> common
> > denominator'. 
> 
> If it is a common denominator of only the surface, I
> might agree with 
> you. But in this very particular case, it pertains
> to the essence of 
> their teachings.

Agreed again!

> Hmm.. I wonder too where I get the idea from?
> Anyway, I'm sorry to 
> have misunderstood you yet again.
> Welcome on board, Master Alex!
> Oops.. you have always been on board, right?

Yes, but all of a sudden the board got transformed
into the boardroom. Oh well...

Good to see you on board, wai! I've certainly learned
a lot from you in our short but nevertheless charged
interaction.

> Actually Zen doesn't scratch, Zen cuts through. :->
> Thanks for the advice, anyway.

This I agree with. I'd just like to add that, in my
experience, Zen cuts through by non-cutting.

> Thank you too for your thoughts.

My gratitude goes to you for your thoughts as well.

Alex

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