Isn't that learning Zen, we learn to seek truth with opened ears, with a non-judgmental heart and humanitarian spirit, but not to judge based on what our eyes can see, our ears can hear, our nose can smell, our skin can sense; certainly not to impose ourselves on others, we learn to recognize, understand and tolerate differences?
 
Does Zen only exist in one or few types of religions or people? Or can its principle of believes can be found in all religions that meant to teach people the principle of love and discipline?
 
Can Muslims would embrace Zen? Well, perhaps we should ask ourselves, so far what they feel for being treated or judged. We could simply put ourselves in their shoes, try to comprehend by seeing what they have seen, hearing what they have heard, feeling for happened to them everyday.   Isn't the decision for embracing something should be made by the party whom we would like to touch their hearts with our hearts, help them to believe what we meant based on the synchronization of what they can see from what they can hear and what they feel?

In Zen what do we learn to remove a block? by force or by heart?  I hope you can help me to build up the list of humanitarian that we should learn in daily life, starting from ourselves.

When the discussion comes to the situation in Iraq, please allow me to ask you do you really think that the world is really become saver than before?  Does the American style of democracy is what Iraqi people need it now? Does the society in Iraq is getting saver and more peaceful for Iraqi people now?  Do you really believe war can cease violence?  Can killing cease hate?  Does learning harmony in Zen meant we should ignore the truth, not by what we thought based on our upbringing, but based on what people who live in that particular region or environment see, hear and feel?

Learning Zen does not meant I should distance myself from the real world.  When the most unfortunate 911 attacks happened, the whole world stood behind the American people and your leadership to fight against terrorists.  But when Bush and Blair decided to attack Iraq, why they fail to get the synchronized endorsement from the rest of the world, but only some.  Have you try to ask yourself this question?  Would you be willing to listen the reason of other nations, e.g. in Europe?  

Do we have global leadership crisis?  You bet, we have !  In Europe, the common thinking actually is very simple, peace can not be reach (not to mention sustain) by taking war as THE ONLY solution.

Agnes

Belgium


AC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: mike brown Hey y'all,

Guess what? Not everyone lives in the good ol' US of A
or gives a shit. Mike.
 
Isn't Australia also participating in Iraq? Not sure. Does Australia have a draft? Are youths who are Globally Conscious forced to participate?
 
BTW, from a purely non-political point of view (if that is possible), shouldn't the most aware people need be in the most savage place on earth? I doubt that the , but if there is any place in the world that needs some kind of help, it is probably the Middle-East. Are there any major Zen temples in the ME?
 
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