Re: [Zen] name calling

[Kathleen Knight]

Fudo, You remind me of my own elder brother (in the literal sense).  I am impressed with your clarity of mind and simple, concise, yet very accurate explanations of Zen philosophy and practice, but surprised at your impatience with those who, in good faith, seek to practice Zen as their own hearts lead them. Kathleen (abodhi2b) ----- Original Message ----- From: fudo To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: Re: [Zen] name calling Dear Jusan-san, In the real world people have to deal with real things. In the real world people not only call names, sometimes they are just mean. You are a former cop you of all people should know this. You may be becoming a Monk because you think that there is no violence there. I know you know it is not that there is no crap there. There is some crap here. One thing I have always respected about you is that you do not pretend. Hojo-san has taught you to serve. It is not serving to say "quit crapping". Shit happens. It is serving to clean it up, and take it to the garden, and use the fertilizer as productively as possible. How about you quit bitching and start hauling shit to turn it into fertilizer for a productive discussion? In case you have not noted, this is what Al has done with his crap. I do not pretend I do not have any crap, and I know you well enough to know you have crap too. Our practice as Monks is to serve. It is our practice to acknowledge the crap and carry it to the garden and put it to use. It is not the practice of a Zen Monk to pretend crap should not or does not exist. This is not serving, and "not serving is no help". Be Well Fudo (your elder brother) Jusan (KC) wrote: > I have been reading this list for about a month now. > > Do people really have to call each other names. I find it very difficult > to read the "message" when blasted by name calling. > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/   To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.