--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Rod Scholl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The answer is that it is possible as "purposeless arising."  Means with no ends in 
sight.  I am suprised at how thoroughly my thinking was (still is) tied to the 
Aritsotelean 'Necessary Cause' embraced by christianity (especially St. Thomas 
Aquinas) -- but it is logically unsound (and therefore so is the Summa Theologica... 
unfortunately, 'cause its full of truth).

LOL  A lot of Zen/Buddhist training is just that leaving behind the other ways we have 
been trained to structure/see the world. Pfffft. Like how often is the christocentric 
view expressed here on this list, all unbeknownst to the poster? 

It's almost unimaginable to approach exposing inherent existence for the little toothy 
fraud it is. What do you mean I don't have to get rid of ego 'cause it doesn't even 
exist 
to begin with?! *gasp* 
 
> I'm not quite sure how one goes from this logical realization to the action of 
> living 
as though it was only means that exist (living in the moment) -- but I mean to ferret 
it out :)

Seriously, when you are meditatively absorbed in this realization, where in the body 
does it feel like it is? This is a question put to me by a Tibetan teacher. It's a 
gentle 
question, to gather info.

Blessings
Ryunen



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