Hi David, welcome on board.

wai
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], David McEwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> Greetings All,
> 
> I just joined ZenForum at one of your member's suggestions and 
would like 
> to introduce myself. My background is yoga and advaita with a 
liberal 
> sprinkling of Zen Buddhist readings.
> 
> As my first offering to the group, here is an ancient analogy I 
came across 
> recently in my readings. The analogy centers around already 
possessing what 
> one is seeking. For Ramana Maharshi, the analogy was a lady and her 
> necklace. For Huang Po--the 9th century AD Chinese Zen master, it 
was a 
> warrior and his forehead pearl.
> 
> Here then, are the two analogies and their significance as 
expounded by 
> these two masters of non-dualism.
> 
> 
> ===========RAMANA MAHARSHI'S ANALOGY==========
> 
> This excerpt taken from The Teachings of Ramana Maharshi edited by 
David 
> Godman, found at <http://www.hinduism.co.za/self-.htm>:
> 
> 
> Sri Ramana Maharshi: You are already that. Time and space cannot 
affect the 
> Self. They are in you. So also all that you see around you is in 
you. There 
> is a story to illustrate this point.
> 
> A lady had a precious necklace around her neck. Once in her 
excitement she 
> forgot it and thought that the necklace was lost. She became 
anxious and 
> looked for it in her home but could not find it. She asked her 
friends and 
> neighbours if they knew anything about the necklace. They did not. 
At last 
> a kind friend told her to feel the necklace round her neck. She 
found that 
> it had all along been round her neck and she was happy. When others 
asked 
> her later if she had found the necklace which was lost, she 
said, 'Yes, I 
> have found it.' She still felt that she had recovered a lost jewel.
> 
> Now did she lose it at all? It was all along round her neck. But 
judge her 
> feelings. She was as happy as if she had recovered a lost jewel. 
Similarly 
> with us, we imagine that we will realise that Self some time, 
whereas we 
> are never anything but the Self.
> 
> ===========End necklace analogy=======
> 
> 
> 
> ===========HUANG PO'S ANALOGY==========
> 
> This excerpt is taken from 
> 
<http://www.stephenmitchellbooks.com/anthologies/enlightenedMindExcerp
t04.html>
> 
> When most people hear that the Buddhas transmit the teaching of the 
one 
> mind, they suppose that there is something to be attained or 
realized apart 
> from mind, and they use mind to seek the teaching, not realizing 
that mind 
> and the object of their search are one. Mind can't be used to seek 
mind; if 
> it is, even after millions of eons have gone by, the search will 
still not 
> be over.
> 
> Suppose that a warrior forgot he was already wearing his pearl on 
his 
> forehead, and sought for it somewhere else: he might search through 
the 
> whole world without finding it. But if someone simply pointed it 
out to 
> him, the warrior would immediately realize that the pearl had been 
there 
> all the time. In the same way, if you students of the Tao are 
mistaken 
> about your own mind, not recognizing that it is the Buddha, you 
will look 
> for it somewhere else, indulging in various practices and hoping to 
attain 
> something. But even after eons of diligent searching, you won't be 
able to 
> attain the Tao.
> 
> These methods can't be compared to the elimination of conceptual 
thinking, 
> when you understand there is nothing that has absolute existence, 
nothing 
> to hold on to, nothing to depend on, nothing to dwell in, nothing 
> subjective or objective. When you prevent the rise of conceptual 
thinking, 
> you will be free men, and this just means you will realize that the 
Buddha 
> has always existed in your own mind. Eons of striving will turn out 
to be 
> wasted effort; just as, when the warrior found his pearl, he simply 
found 
> what had been hanging on his forehead all the time, and his 
discovery had 
> nothing to do with his efforts to find it elsewhere. Therefore the 
Buddha 
> said, "I didn't attain a single thing through Supreme Perfect 
> Enlightenment." It was because he was concerned that people 
wouldn't 
> believe this that he taught by less direct methods. This statement 
of his 
> isn't idle chatter; it expresses the highest truth.
> 
> ===========End forehead pearl analogy============
> 
> gassho,
> 
> David





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