Fudo wrote: > Rod Scholl wrote: > >>Alex wrote: >>When Buddhist practitioners talk about attachment, it >>only refers to the attachment to self. >> >> >>Well that suprises me. Can anyone practitioners support/refute >> this teaching from Alex? >> >>Thanks, >> >>Rod >> >> >> >> > Dear Rod, > > This can be refuted on two levels. > > First, Buddhists to not think any one thing...some Buddhists may > mean what Alex says they mean when they use the word > attachment, but not all Buddhist practitioners would agree the > sun rises in the morning. What is the Christian belief about > whether or not > the host in communion is the actual body of Christ?...there is > no one view. This statement in untrue in its sweeping > generality. > > Second' by typing Buddhism and attachment into a search engine > this is the first quote I came up with. > " > > > > *ATTACHMENT* > > > > *"Grasping at things can only yield one of two results: > Either the thing you are grasping at disappears, or you yourself > disappear. It is only a matter of which occurs first." * > /Goenka/ > > > *SOME DEFINITIONS* > > It may be important to know the following definitions and > descriptions in order to understand the problems we have with > attachment, and make sense about the ways in which we can deal > with them. > > *ATTACHMENT* > Definition: Exaggerated not wanting to be separated from someone > or something. (Exact opposite of Aversion) Because the label of > "pleasant" is very relative and based upon limited information, > Attachment includes an aspect of exaggeration or "projection". > > Near "enemy" (or not to be confused with): Real appreciation, > love and compassion. > Opposite: Wanting to be separated from someone or something: > aversion. Main quality: exaggeration of positive qualities, > which can only lead to disappointment. Falling in love will > usually fit very well in this category." > > So there are some Buddhist practitioners who do not agree with > Alex's statement (of course this makes them incorrect). > > Be Well > > Fudo >
Hi Fudo, you say somewhere above that an attachment is "very relative and based upon limited information" , do you know of any teaching that deals with a limited information that in many cases can not be known since it will be the equivalent to know the future, and how to remove the relativity that impose one's wishes. In another post I explain that I am confronted with the real or it looks like that, need of closing my shop in witch I feel like I am at home,the attachment is huge, but there is this nagging conundrum "it does not make money but it could and again it does not make money but it could, repeating again and again until one feel sick" of course one can not know the answer but it looks stupid to loose one's own source of making a living, yes it is not giving money to live now, but it could. I know that one do not own anything not even the body, that everything is just to be used for the moment, so to be attached to it is stupid but being a possible source of one's living it looks too important. Anyway, it looks as the fear of not knowing what the future will bring is there too. It is funny, when I read what I wrote looks like I write the question and the answer, but still the decision escapes, obviously decision making has something to do with the shop not making money. This can go on for ever, Someone said that mind makes a hell out of heaven and a heaven out of hell.Was totally right. It looks that what Alex said , that I have to get rid of the self is right, not that I need to get enlightened by tomorrow but I have to find the way to get the self out of the equation, even if it is for this occasion, that could be done by intensifying daily practice,here comes the evil voice inside asking would not be this ignoring the problem? it really can go on forever. Metta Carlos ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Give hope to a child. Helping a needy child is easier than you think. Click here to meet someone who needs your help. http://us.click.yahoo.com/hq3f6C/iJlJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
