I must say I don't get this. How does the fact that I don't belong to any organized religion make me exposed?
I could understand if you managed to dig up some dirt on me which shows how I'm a closet Jehova's witness, or a Scientologist, etc., but if I say I don't subscribe to any organization because I detest the inevitable corruption that the power brings (be it in Zen, Chan, etc.), how does that disqualify me? Alex --- AVB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FIRST THE DALAI LAMA, now Alex Bunard! All of our > most sacred idols are > being tossed into the fireplace, truly this year is > beginning as a great > year of Iconoclastic Zen! After all, what is Zen but > seeing through the > illusions to the real? > > al > > From: "anjin327" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Here is an interesting quote I found on > > > http://alexbunard.freeservers.com/reality/meta/foreword.html > > > > "Throughout this book, the reader will undoubtedly > notice that the > > author is drawing heavily and liberally on the > material found in the > > Chinese Ch'an and Japanese Zen Buddhist lore. A > word of disclaimer is > > in order here: the author is not, nor has he ever > been, in any way > > associated nor affiliated with any of the schools > or institutions of > > Ch'an or Zen Buddhism. Furthermore, the author is > not, nor has he ever > > been, associated with any other schools or > institution of religious or > > other so-called cognitive practices. Also, the > author has never had > > any contacts nor associations with any religious > individuals, > > regardless of their walks of life. Acting as a > free individual, the > > author has merely embraced the opportunity, > offered to him early on in > > his formative years, to undergo a comprehensive > and a rather long > > course of thorough education in science, art, > philosophy, logic, > > music, languages, and social study. That study, > coupled with a number > > of years of careful observations of the waxing and > waning of everyday > > flow of life, has resulted in the thoughts > presented in this book. And > > of course, this study continues indefinitely, > following the endless > > and joyous path of growth and maturation." > > > > Anjin > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Alex Bunard > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > Would you be so kind to elaborate on this a > bit more? > > > > The reason I'm confused by what you wrote > above is > > > > stemming from the fact that the Buddha > explained that > > > > the suffering arises from the delusion that > life (the > > > > cycle of birth and death) offers the > possibility of > > > > not being suffering. This then gives rise to > the > > > > pursuit of pleasure, which binds us to the > karmic > > > > wheel. > > > > > > > > I'd be really curious to hear how do you > propose to > > > > refute that contention. > > > > > > It's simply that translating the first noble > truth as being 'life is > > > suffering' is inaccurate and misleading. > Buddhism is not pessimism > > > and fully acknowldeges joy and happiness as well > as suffering. > > > Dukkha has many connotations besides simple > suffering. > > > > > > Genryu > > > > > > > > > > > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, > Right Speech, Right > Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right > Concentration, Right > Livelihood > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ > > > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release > Date: 1/3/2005 > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.298 / Virus Database: 265.6.8 - Release > Date: 1/3/2005 > > ===== No karma was produced during the composition of this letter __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Take Yahoo! Mail with you! Get it on your mobile phone. http://mobile.yahoo.com/maildemo ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Has someone you know been affected by illness or disease? Network for Good is THE place to support health awareness efforts! http://us.click.yahoo.com/UwRTUD/UOnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
