Carlos wrote: >> All the >> practice is in the direction of emptying the mind.
Alex wrote: > The desire to empty the mind is a hallmark of > dualistic practice. Such practice is doomed to > failure. I did not use the word desire, Alex did, the word direction do not imply that one is consciously wanting or even knowing the outcome of something going in a direction. Alex wrote: > You must realize that it is impossible to empty > something that is already empty. It's like sitting in > your car on the traffic light that's already showing > green, and waiting for the light to turn green. If you > do that, you'll inevitably set yourself for a failure. > > Alex Here I have to speculate on the meaning that the mind is already empty because it is a territory were I have lots of doubts. One can say with certainty that the mind is empty because is made up of processes that are dependent on causes and that are perpetually changing, so one can not say, this is mind, there is nothing that stays ,no self, that would be explanation of emptiness, I think . Now there is a process that look like someone writing down on a sheet of paper all the memories, concepts, dualistic meanings, etc , and someone else pulling out the paper, so all is frantically written back on the next sheet of paper and the paper disappears again, this continue through life. In the same way that all the processes of cause and effect are empty of self but at the same time those processes are creating form . One can say that all those memories and concepts being continuously recreated are something even though they are nothing. Which brings the question, should one look at life as something or as nothing? Looks that when one meditates, because one is Buddha with no desires and very little duality, the writer of concepts stops writing, and in a way one could say the mind is being emptied, (just another concept) but since this is not the zendo, concepts are permissible even if they are emitted for a gullible and confused mind. And since this is not the zendo, could you explain exactly what happen to the mind when one is meditating?. Metta Carlos Buddha Saying: The fool who knows that he is a fool is for that very reason a wise man; the fool who thinks that he is wise is called a fool indeed. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> In low income neighborhoods, 84% do not own computers. At Network for Good, help bridge the Digital Divide! http://us.click.yahoo.com/hjtSRD/3MnJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
