---I cannot tell you how much i agree. Success is success, anything 
else is failure. I'll keep looking, thanks for the hot coals, Guy.


 In [email protected], "Rev. Fudo Michael Koppang" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It Is Not Up To Me. If Your Effort, No Matter How Great, Has 
Failed......It Is Insufficient. Sorry. I Cannot Change This Simple 
Fact. Only Success Is Enough. I Am Not Much Impressed With Tales Of 
Even Great Failures Filled With Excuses. Be Well, Fudo
> 
> --- ventouxboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> ---ah, i have in the past, but the temples i attended were full of 
> people involved in "new age" crap. not for me. a fairly wise monk 
> once said that a wayseeking mind should do all they can to find a 
> teacher and test their understanding. i thought that was what i 
was 
> doing here, you apparently think to the contrary(not that it 
matters 
> to me). have i made no effort? GUY
> 
>  In [email protected], "Rev. Fudo Michael Koppang" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Get Real. Make A Real Effort To Have A Real Practice And A Real 
> Teacher. 
> > 
> > --- ventouxboy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > --- So what would you suggest?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > In [email protected], "Rev. Fudo Michael Koppang" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > Why Don't We Just Mail Off Ordinations To All Who The People 
Who 
> > Take The Time To Write The List? That Is The Kind Of Effort That 
> Is 
> > Really All That Is Needed.....and All Feel They Have Already 
Have 
> > *it* Already Anyway. The Rest Of The Practice Is All Bogus 
Anyway 
> > Right? Why Waste Time Or Effort?  Be Well, Fudo
> > > 
> > > --- abc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > From: Rev. Fudo Michael Koppang Evidently You Are Not Putting 
> Too 
> > Much Effort Into Your Search. >>
> > > 
> > > I think he wants an exact name, phone number, and address of 
the 
> > Shanga-Dojo, etc. plus the name and address and phone number of 
> the 
> > Contact Person, and perhaps a few photos of both plus some 
general 
> > photos of the group and the layout of the facility too. I hope 
> they 
> > have Soda and Snack machines or a Cafeteria too. Video Games 
would 
> > be a plus, perhaps a mini-arcade. Day Care and Pet Care would 
just 
> > be asking for too much, but we can all dream.
> > > 
> > > Helpful Al
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right 
Speech, 
> > Right  Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right 
> Concentration, 
> > Right Livelihood 
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
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> > Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, 
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