On the contrary.  It can take several lifetimes to
master. =)

        
>    Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2005 16:33:55 -0000
>    From: "mooreharmony2002"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Ran across this a while ago...
> 
> 
> thanks for the link... cute shirt, i laughed too :) 
> 
> looks like an easy game to play.
> 
> --- In [email protected], woof puppy
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > I may have posted this a long time ago.  I don't
> > remember.  If I haven't, enjoy:
> > 
> > http://www.ozyandmillie.org/1999/om19990930.html
> > 
> > It made me laugh when I first saw it, but the
> artist
> > has improved since then, and there's a better
> version
> > on this here T-Shirt design.  
> > 
> >
>
http://www.cafepress.com/cp/browse/N-1481+14+1268_pv-
> ozyandmillie.16057389_Ne-1160_bt-2
> > 
> > 
> > SPROCKET
> > 
> > P.S. No, I'm not hocking T-Shirts.  =P
> > 
> > 
> >     
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>    Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 10:49:19 -0800 (PST)
>    From: Alex Bunard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: The Platform Sutra of the Sixth
> Patriarch of Zen
> 
> --- Garleon Cheng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > While I do not claim to an authority on the
> history
> > of the sutra, I did take a course last year 
> > in the study of the Platform Sutra. I wasn��t
> aware
> > of any scholars in particular who were 
> > questioning the historical authenticity of the
> > sutra, but of course this doesn't mean that 
> > the sutra is 100% historically authentic. 
> 
> I don't think the issue is with the historical
> authenticity of the sutra. The issue is with the
> authenticity of the teachings contained within this
> sutra. More pointedly, Hui-neng seems to be making a
> big point with insisting that sitting meditation is
> absolutely not necessary for attaining liberation
> (because it's all in the mind anyway, and what does
> that have to do with sitting, or with any other
> activity or position?)
> 
> Now, since many Buddhist practitioners have their
> entire practice organized strictly around seated
> meditation, this obviously does not sit (no pun
> intended!) well with them. Deshimaru is one such
> teacher, since his entire teaching revolves around a
> single item -- sitting. Thus, he vehemently negates
> any validity of that entire sutra, claiming that it
> is
> a counterfeit, a prank set up by the anti-Buddhists
> (or something to that effect).
> 
> My question to the group is -- do you feel the same?
> Do you think that, if certain sacred scripture
> denounces sitting meditation as being anything more
> conducive to enlightenment than other human
> activities, that such scripture cannot possibly be
> genuine?
> 
> Because this is what we have in the Platform sutra
> --
> a clear denial of the belief that sitting is
> absolutely necessary if one is to attain liberation.
> 
> > In regard to that person who claims to be the
> > Buddha�K Well, I guess if you agree with the 
> > Platform Sutra that our true nature is Buddha
> > nature, then you can say every person is in 
> > his deepest essence a Buddha. But anytime someone
> > claims to be the forth incarnation of 
> > the historical Buddha, I think it is just a fraud.
> 
> 
> Well, Deshimaru was claiming not that we all are
> Buddhas, but that he himself is the Buddha, and that
> all the rest of us aren't. So we should listen to
> him,
> and he shouldn't be listening to us.
> 
> Alex
> 
> 
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