Diana is right, though. You cannot let go of something that's not there. And something that's not there to begin with cannot eventually loosen and fade.
Alex --- Ian Johanson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Diana > > I'd agree that if we try to do something like "get > rid" of thoughts or ego, > that won't work. But if ego is seen for what it is > (ideas revolving around > self-grasping), then we can let go of it, and the > pattern eventually > loosens and fades. > > Dogen put it best. "To study Buddhism is to study > the self. To study the > self is to forget the self. To forget the self is to > be enlightened by all > things. To be enlightened by all things is to be > free from attachment to > the body and mind of one's self and of others." > > Ian > > >Greetings all Sangha, > > > >Hmmmm - Mack, where in Zen does it say to rid > yourself > >of the ego? It's like trying to get rid of your > >thoughts; doesn't work. > > > >I'm interested in further explanation of "modesty" > in > >Zen terminology, kaoabcd, if you care to expound a > >bit. > > > >Thanks, > >Diana > > > >--- mackkup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "kaoabcd" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > In my mind, Zen always tells its believer > to > > > be modest. Is that > > > > possible to all of you retain modest all the > time? > > > > > > > > > > > > Rid yourself of the ego then yes its possible. > until > > > then, no. Mack > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________ > >Do you Yahoo!? > >Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second > dates. > >http://personals.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > > >Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, > Right Speech, > >Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, > Right Concentration, Right > >Livelihood > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > No karma was produced during the composition of this letter __________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Would you Help a Child in need? It is easier than you think. Click Here to meet a Child you can help. http://us.click.yahoo.com/0Z9NuA/I_qJAA/i1hLAA/S27xlB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Noble Eightfold Path: Right View, Right Intention, Right Speech, Right Action, Right Effort, Right Mindfulness, Right Concentration, Right Livelihood Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ZenForum/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
