Oh Samahita, did you get that! Everyday I look to check out some zen 
ideas and thoughts and it seems your seemingly endless, - and to me, 
entirely meaningless, rhetoric or manic babbling fills the page, why do 
you torture us so? Last time I commented some came to your defense. 
Can't you email them personally and leave the group proselytizing-free. 
Also, you are now supposed to reference your posts and this last one 
isn't. It is you I presume. "Zen, as when the Now jumped over 
th'oooooonn.." - ee cummings

>    From: "Bhikkhu Samahita" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Who or What  is the Creator ... ???
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>   No Agent nor Actor exists only Impersonally Acting Processes Unfolds!
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>         Question: Who is the Creator ??? Answer: Nobody is the Creator 
> of anything !!!
>         Q: What then, is creating ??? A: Ignorance and Craving is 
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>         Q: What is ignorance & craving creating ? A: Ignorance & 
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>         Question: Who Perceives ??? Answer: Nobody Perceives anything 
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>         Q: What then, is perceiving ??? A: The Perception process 
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>         Q: What do perception perceive ??? A: Form, sound, smell, 
> taste, touch & thoughts !!!
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>         Question: Who Feels ??? Answer: Nobody Feels anything !!!
>         Q: What then, is feeling ??? A: The process of Feeling itself 
> feels !!!
>         Q: What do Feeling feel ???  A: Feeling feels pleasure, pain & 
> neutrality !!!
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>         Question: Who is the Knower ??? Answer: Nobody is the Knower of 
> anything !!!
>         Q: What then, is Knowing ??? A: The state of Knowledge itself 
> knows !!!
>         Q: What is knowledge knowing ??? A: Knowledge knows: Such is 
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>           Such is the End of Pain, & Way to End all Pain !!!
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>  Bhikkhu Samahita, Sri Lanka.
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>  Let there be Calm & Free Bliss !!!
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>    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 08:55:55 +0200
>    From: "" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Buddhist bibliographyOctober  update
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> the October  update to the Buddhist bibliography is now online at :
> http://www.golden-wheel.net/buddbib.html
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> while  the Buddhist directory is now online  at :
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>    Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2005 10:32:03 -0000
>    From: "Bill Smart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Things about Zen
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> --- In [email protected], "Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>  The Zen philosopher
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>>  Zen is individual contemplation to the exclusion of all else as the
>>  only way of achieving pure enlightenment a focus on 'being' rather
>>  than 'things' or 'becoming'.  ...a WHOLE LOT of stuff snipped...
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